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      05-28-2015, 06:22 AM   #23
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Originally Posted by E82MSport View Post
I had a discussion recently with Ground Control in regards to their Street plates with use of the race perch. When I mentioned the measured stack-up height as compared to the OE top mount they were slightly confused that it was shorter. I'm not stating it's a bad thing because without that height difference my ride height would have been roughly 20mm higher that it is now and I had actually taken that difference into consideration.

My problem is similar to yours and I also need to raise the front by ~5-8mm but also reduce my spring preload by roughly the same amount. With my current lower perch height within 3 threads of highest setting (i.e no more adjustment to raise the vehicle) I found the engagement of the internal bump stop was happening more often under very hard compression loads on the track. The only way I found to both increase ride height and reduce spring preload was a two step approach. First I needed to raise the damper in the spindle by way of a spacer and the second was a smaller spacer on top of the camber plate. Because of the additional spacer on top of the camber plate I needed the corresponding length (like you mentioned) of the studs in the attachment girdle. Ground control was able to install longer studs into two new girdles for this purpose based on my specs.

Like you I also had help from a very knowledgeable forum member that I'm very thankful of.

I'm glad you sorted out your issues, I enjoy reading your posts.
Glad that Ground Control was able to customize the top mounting plates for you.

I find it odd that Ground Control has not planned ahead for differences in total stack height though. Based on type of application, they should offer the following;
  1. When customer is using stock or aftermarket spring + damper combo, GC street camber plate stack height should mimick BMW OE top hat stack height.
  2. When customer has a coilover setup, GC street camber plate stack height should approach BMW OE top hat stack height, or offer different stack height options.

My setup is different than yours, so no spring perch or pre-load issue to deal with, makes things simpler. For my lowered/stiffer Spec-R spring + Bilstein B8 damper combo, the techs I spoke with, suggested that the damper would not sit as snuggly into the hub knucle if I was to raise it from the bottom of the damper, because some of the damper designs are slightly tapered in that area and thus, would not be pinched/secured sufficiently.

It seems as if the preferred approach to address rake issues for spring/damper setups, is to use the appropriate spacer above your camber plate...
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