Thread: Audio bitrates
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      11-08-2010, 06:08 PM   #26
Second Lieutenant

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I still don't see any discussion of the loudness wars that have lead to dynamic compression and clipped wave forms regardless of the technical abilities of the CD medium.

To quote Bob Dylan:

""You listen to these modern records, they're atrocious, they have sound all over them. There's no definition of nothing, no vocal, no nothing, just like—static"

Also, Steven Wilson of Porcupine Tree mentioned how he considered placing a message on record sleeves of their Deadwing album that reads as follows:

"Please note that this record may not be mastered as loudly as some of the other records in your collection. This is in order to retain the dynamic range and subtlety of the music. Please, use your volume knob."

It is known by these artists and many experts that the loudness wars have lead to many CDs being produced to sound worse than they could in an effort to make them louder. In many cases, this loudness has lead to clipping, squashed wave forms, and limited dynamic range.

As I mentioned, CDs have the ability to sound great, but they do not often live up to their specs. Kind of like owning a ferrari and pulling a trailer behind it. Yes, it has capabilities, but if you don't use it properly it does not live up to its potential.

Here is a link that has several articles on the subject:

Here is a link that explains why the problem exists on CDs:
Death of High Fidelity

Anyway, like I mentioned, I have many, many more CDs than vinyl...not even close. However, vinyl can sound great and anyone that just writes it off based on a technical paper is missing out. Many vinyl albums are mixed for sound quality and not for loudness, so they have an advantage over albums that are mixed with loudness as the main criteria.