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Originally Posted by slickone
I think you are talking reliability and Garret is referring to fit and finish, interior quality, material quality.
The lastest Car & Driver comparo with the Evo in it, says the interior is no where near what it should be for the price they are charging.
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If Garret is talking about fit and finish, which seems to be the case, then I don't really think I can argue. I think that's probably the main reason I'm looking at the 135 over the STi and Evo. In terms of reliability, I don't think you can base it on a badge or name plate, if I remember correctly the previous M3's had big problems with drive train issues and previous EVO had/have clutch problems, and STi had suspension problems. Even the all might Toyota is now suffering from reliability issues. I guess my point is, Name Brands are designed to be sales tools, so you can't look solely at the badge. What a name brand will tell you is, the likelihood of how a certain product will be, but it's not a guarantee.
I also have to agree that the STi and Evo's are getting to be over priced. When they first came out though, they were a steal. At that time (2004) no car manufacture in the North America market was offering anything close in terms of performance, especially at that price point. Now however it's a different story, it seems like all manufacturer are raising the level and all of them seem to have a well price performance car. With that said though, I think the 135 is still a bit pricey for what you get, in terms of size and technology. Although, I guess the point of the 135 is to get back to the roots of a car, just driver and machine.