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      09-06-2011, 04:09 PM   #111
GoingTooFast
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Originally Posted by adc View Post
He is saying that under steady cornering and turn-in, the car is understeering. He is saying that even under trail braking, he still found understeer.

(...) Does this make any sense to you?
I don't know any fast street legal car that doesn't understeers first when the tires traction starts to drop off under mild acceleration in a steady cornering state.

Also, the M limited slip differential induces initial understeer.

What I find VERY hard to believe is a car with such a short wheel base that doesn't turn-in under hard trail braking - the car will rotate just fine and help the front end follow the path of the curve.


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Originally Posted by adc View Post
Apparently, it does have quite a lot of power oversteer, which is not the same as negating the above.
When you step on the gas pedal you can counteract the initial understeer reaction with power oversteer as long as you keep the engine in the right power band for a seamless transition from understeer to oversteer, which on the 1M would mean 5000-7000rpm.

Just look at what happens when there's not enough power available to break the rear tires traction in a Cayman:

Cayman vs Evora

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