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      09-06-2011, 06:00 PM   #114
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Originally Posted by GoingTooFast View Post
I don't know any fast street legal car that doesn't understeers first when the tires traction starts to drop off under mild acceleration in a steady cornering state.
There is no mild acceleration in a steady cornering state. And the guy found understeer also under trail braking.

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What I find VERY hard to believe is a car with such a short wheel base that doesn't turn-in under hard trail braking - the car will rotate just fine and help the front end follow the path of the curve.
All the stock BMW's I've tracked so far (not a huge number, but all the generations back to the E36) have understeered in steady cornering. Blame it on the staggered tire setup, suspension calibrations, whatever you want.

This never needs to be taken on faith however, just get your 1M on a track and drive the snot out of it, see which way it goes.
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