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Originally Posted by Obioban
Amusingly, two of the examples you gave (water pumps and coils) were the exact examples he gave me of why he refused to install OEM parts and would only do OE. Water pumps in particular he mentioned being a huge pain in slightly leaking or having a bad bearing that would present itself after a couple thousand miles.
Honestly, I don't think we're going to agree on this. 7 years ago, I was right there with you and though they were the same part for a lower price. Nothing anybody posted would have convinced me otherwise.
But, 7 years later and having dealt with OEM parts issues... I'd rather pay the extra and have everything go properly. At this point I've had enough OEM part issues that nothing is going to convince me otherwise, and I'll stick with OE.
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No, the N54 for example..:
The OEM water pump is a mere $3 cheaper than the BMW one...
http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E82-135...ump/ES2598223/
vs
http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E82-135...ump/ES2622808/
there is absolutely zero difference in getting the VDO one.
it is physically impossible to go 'nah OEM is worse than OEBMW' when they are THE SAME PART... anything that's thought about them bein worse is simply bad luck, you can get bad OEBMW parts just as often as bad 'genuine' ones....
the only reason you think you're getting a better part is you're paying more, because you're a sucker for a branding...
as below, manufacturers have certain standards they MUST MAINTAIN for certifications... selling potentially defective parts could cost these companies tens or hundreds of millions of dollars, for a few million in profit at best.
Assuming that business is as stupid as you seem to be implying is ridiculous.
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Originally Posted by Freon
Did some quick googling. Here is a link to a same vendor agreement from TRW citing ISO 9000, 9001, etc.:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...,d.eWU&cad=rja
Here is info on ISO and what it means for certified manufacturers:
http://globalpurchasing.com/counterf...nic-components
"Franchised distributors guarantee direct manufacturer traceability for all products, with pass-through warranties where needed, along with the best-in-class warehouse and process controls such as ISO 9001, ISO 14001 and ESD 20:20 certification. "
So, TRW can't just dump bad parts off on the gray market. They could lose their ISO cert for that, and in turn lose all their OE business with companies like BMW if they lost their cert.
Further searching, they are ISO 26262 certified, which covers safety of road going vehicles. They could get in deep poopy for dumping these control arms ANYWHERE if they were in fact somehow faulty.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_26262
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thanks!
sadly i don't think you'll convince them
.. especially going by the above post.
Even discounting that ISO9001 dictates minimum quality and document control standards... and that failure rates would be anywhere near enough to keep stores stocked... If they were factory seconds, i'm almost certain other standards would dictate they wouldn't be able to be sold as firsts?