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      05-02-2016, 02:31 AM   #9
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Originally Posted by froop View Post
Up until that point where you're in an emergency situation and get into a big accident because your tyres were so shit they couldn't brake in time or lost grip when they shouldn't have. If his tyres are feeling "wishy washy" anytime its over 120km that's not a good sign...

Don't get me wrong about learning the limits of the car. I drive at all times with traction control fully off but this can be done more safely with decent tyres on and off the street.
Let me clarify. Sticky tires are nice, but why put them on the car when you can't even make use of them in anything more than a straight line? Tires with less traction are nice because you don't need to push the car super aggressively to come to the limit. Even without pushing yourself much you can keep a nice edge on a car that is not stuck to the road, but gliding. To avoid crashing, you don't want to push your limits too much on a public road, but for parking lots, and open areas, it pays dividends to really push yourself and learn how the car handles at the limit. I see so many posts about how one person or another disabled DSC and ended up spinning out on this or that public road. It leaves me terribly sad every time I hear this, because the first thing I do when I start the car is disable DSC, and I slide the hell out of the car everywhere on my bald rear tires. I have car control, which is a skill ANY driver can learn and it makes driving an absolute pleasure. In any case, for street driving, a responsible driver stays within the car's limits and his own limits--tires are not going to cause anybody to crash, but a driver who doesn't understand his tires can crash. Now, unless the OP's tires are outright defective, they will have quite a lot of traction to spare for legal driving in all conditions. I don't doubt that they will spin a lot under throttle, but this is just one more part of the car to learn to control. I have no issues controlling mine with bald 245 runflats, tune + downpipe.


Also, as far as his car squirming above 120 kph, it happens. His tires have full tread depth and soft sidewalls. He may need an alignment too. It's not a big deal.
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