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      02-15-2013, 08:31 PM   #54
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Originally Posted by JHZR2 View Post
Yet you are implying that it will have zero effect on "components" in native state, and so is acceptable for use in the second paragraph. The aspect that it is "tuned for such fuels and components" would be a valid point.

Yet one of the parties in the lawsuit against the EPA to prevent just lowly E15 from hitting the market was representing BMW group amongst many other auto makers.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/e...e15-fuel-blend

So youre also implying that you know better than the manufacturers who are spending money and effort to prevent E15 from coming to fruition.

Im not denying that EVERYTHING needs PM. But re-read my posts. Im not using additives to compensate for Ethanol, rather as an UCL, lubricity enhancer for the moving parts (irrelevant to the presence of ethanol in any concentration), fuel stabilizer and selecting adds that survive combustion so that they can cycle around and help clean valve deposits that dont get washed down given DI.

None of this means that there is inherent compatibility of fuel system components for ethanol content higher than 10%. That is the case, and it is verified time and time again. If you think otherwise, well fine. But it doesnt make it the case...
Well the lawyers can spin it any way they want... but if the govt really wanted higher ethanol, or anything else, they would do so. Regardless of auto industries threats of damage. They all said the same thing when E-10 was first introduced, how older cars couldn't survive and how everyone panicked that they would be forced to buy newer cars. Didn't happen. everything was fine (for the most part). The automakers just don't want to spend millions more changing some components.
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