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Originally Posted by Garrett

You don't see the difference of a truck and a car..? Really..? I drive a car for pleasure, own a truck for towing, hauling, sporting..etc. Hard to keep a keg and 4 Michigan tailgaters in a BMW coupe.

Admittedly, if I had kids I would be a FATHER and do what was right for my FAMILY and own a 4-door sedan. My kids would over-ride my dilusional fantasy that I'm Mario Andretti.

BTW, if I had need of an Audi RS4, i'd own one right now. I don't! I've owned a sh!t load of nice cars over the years, but always, always had a beater for winter driving. Nothing changed, now my beater is a 2007 Ford. To me thats a nice enough beater to be un-embarrassing..!

Give it up. You've lost the debate. You've been presented with irrefutable examples of 4-door cars that are not only non-embarrassing, but that most men would prefer driving to their current vehicles (single or family-men, young or old).