I have ran those tires for two winters now. Took a 500 mile road trip with them the first time I put them on and the traction control light came on coming out of every curve on the highway. After that trip I played with tire pressures, started running 32psi all around and since then have found them to be great winter tires. Still does not mean you can go WOT unless you are in at least 3rd gear but they perform very well in the cold, snow and ice.
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