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      06-01-2012, 07:47 AM   #88
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Given the fact that the OP have each written something different in various forums, you cannot blame me for not reading everything accurately.
Of course I can. Simply reading the first post should not be a real challenge I think. And I'm not talking about other forums, we're not in these other forums here.

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I am also not familiar with the abbreviation FMIC for an intercooler!
Well, then look it up, google it, whatever, it's really not difficult and used in all english speaking car forums.

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From my own experience, I would say that you should be able to see intercoolers through the grille once replaced by a larger version.
Then get more experience. The 135i already has an intercooler anyway, which you can also see if you look closely. You can also see any aftermarket intercooler, of course also depending on its colour.

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In my opinion a larger oil cooler is not necessary (or at least not in Germany), for this purpose there are already auxiliary water coolers and larger intercoolers!
I think you really don't have much experience at all. Anyone owning a 135i / 335i even in stock form, let alone tuned, will tell you that there are problems with the oil cooling if the car is driven a bit harder. As there is no heat exchanger with the cooling circuit, the auxiliary water cooler is more or less useless. And the IC will cool IATs (which means, in case you don't know that abbreviation either, intake air temperatures) but which will only have a marginal impact on oil temperatures.

Don't know what this has to do with Germany either, but well go figure.

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I also ask the question why BMW PP do not offer a larger oil cooler? I would assume that the engineers at BMW have a a lot more experience than you when it comes to engineering!!
I'm no engineer at all, so no need to get all excited about my comments. I'm just speaking from experience. But it's a good question why they don't offer an additional oil cooler - all those who track their 135i / 335i / Alpina B3 BT that I know run into that problem and in the end upgrade their oil cooler. Alpina BTW does offer an additional oil cooler.

My guess is that the aim of the BMW Performance line is not to transform any car into a more or less track suitable car, which is why they don't offer any serious upgrades. Also, the water cooler is just cheap to do as it replicates the oil cooler in the passenger wheel well.

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Without hardware modifications, it is only a matter of time before the engine goes bang ....
Why would that be? N54 engines have been tuned for more than 5 years now, with much higher hp outputs, and without any major engine failures that I know about.

But then you're very well reflecting the attitude prevailing in German car forums. One of the reasons I don't like it there very much.

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