06-21-2013, 10:30 AM | #1 |
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SS or Maddad?
I am almost for sure that there is no 1M out there with Evolve/Supersprint Race muffler with Maddad mids or even with non-resonated SS mids (there are a few with SS down pipes and stock mids). So, I want to ask this here as a general exhaust question, without the help of sound clips etc. for people with lots of experience in different types of mid pipes:
I have the N55 mids and Evolve Race. If I ever want to make it "louder", keeping the rear section, my best bets probably are these two: Maddad resonated/catless pipes or SS front non-catted pipe mated with SS non-resonated Y-pipe. After the recent and ongoing SS exhaust June sale, the price is close enough, although Maddad is still a tiny bit cheaper. Which one would you go and why? Would the SS be louder than Maddad, because it is a straight pipe without resonators? Will it bring back the drone?
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06-21-2013, 10:41 AM | #2 |
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Supersprint. In all my time owning and modifying cars, no company has come close to being as consistently excellent. Perfect better than factory fitment, great build quality, made in the western world, and properly researched.
All that said, the main reason I keep coming back is because they are honest. Their dynos are true if not conservative, and in my experience they will never make up gains to get a sale. Case in point, I asked them about their 130i muffler, got a detailed response on weight and DB, and they clearly stated that it won't gain power. Customer for life.
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06-21-2013, 11:12 AM | #3 | |
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I also worry about how Maddad and Evolve Race could syncro in terms of sound. Could be great or not, depends. It was the main concern for me from the start, that's why I went with the less risky N55 initially because they are closer to stock, much quieter while Maddad has a very distinct sound through its twin resonators. It is almost made for upgrading N54 engined cars with stock muffler. I sure don't want to mess up with my Evolve Race's sound or replace it, absolutely love it; just could be even more juicier a bit if the drone remains absent or very low as it is now. N55 seems to be great in every other aspect (response, power, drone) but it may be limiting the Race muffler sound.
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06-21-2013, 02:56 PM | #5 | |
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And these are sales prices, much better than Euro SS web site prices
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06-21-2013, 08:50 PM | #6 |
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I have the supersprint catless front with non resonated y-pipe on my car. Its music to the ears!! I ordered direct from Italy over a year ago and paid $755 usd.. so the GMP sales price is a good deal.. good luck with your decision..
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06-21-2013, 09:42 PM | #7 | |
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What about drone?
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06-22-2013, 04:08 AM | #8 | |
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When you ask, if there is drone? I have a bit around 2500rpms in certain gears, since most of my exhaust is straight piped this is the norm... And recently I installed some power bars.. check out http://www.sixth-element.com/english...lus/index.html , It has seemed to reduce the cabin noise.. |
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06-22-2013, 11:42 AM | #9 | |
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I think your drone comes mainly from Meisterschaft rear, almost everyone reported the same with that exhaust. Your actual exhaust combo must be really loud!
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06-22-2013, 11:05 PM | #11 | |
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I don't agree with some others who commented that Race muffler is close to stock; I think it is different in all the good ways, just not a very loud muffler unless you hit the gas and pass a certain rpm, which is a good thing in my book. At the end if I don't like it, find it too loud for my liking I can just sell it and return back to N55 mid which is doing a decent job for now.
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06-27-2013, 02:41 AM | #12 |
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Please share your findings if you decide to swap to SS midpipe with Evolve Race!
I have the Evolve Race with Berk midpipes. Its not that loud until you step on it. There is drone at around 100km but at higher or lower speeds it is fine. |
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07-11-2013, 12:50 AM | #13 |
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I have the mad dads with stock exhaust and love the sound. Louder than stock for sure with a very distinct high performance snarl on full excelleration. Less drone too.
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07-23-2013, 07:40 PM | #15 |
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Not exactly a GB! Check this vendor's thread for details and contact:
http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=855521
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07-29-2013, 12:31 PM | #16 |
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I got AR catless dps, berk mids, and evolve supersprint exhaust.
I'm thinking of swapping the berk mids to to supersprint midpipes for a bit more noise and better fit with the evolve exhaust. I'm not sure if the catless setup's smell will bother me in the long run though... Would I be crazy to consider getting the supersprint catted mids? I don't think I've read heard anyone get that before due to the 2100euro price |
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On the catted SS pipes: I think it doesn't make any sense because a) they are crazy expensive b) you will loose the advantage of high flow with cats c) sound will also be different and I am yet to hear that pipe in action.
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My berks don't have cats. Just the regular berk mids.
If I can't stand the catless smell, maybe 3 options: 1. Swap back to 1M factory downpipes (with regular SS mids) 2. Get some aftermarket catted downpipes (with regular SS mids) -ar catted dp's -lightweight catted dp's (expensive) -some other brand 3.SS catted mids (most expensive. but would be interesting to see what it sounds/feels like) |
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For this particular pipe all I know is also what we have in Supersprint web page. I did not see any installed pictures of them. Maybe somebody else knows and may pop in. Really really expensive though!
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08-05-2013, 06:37 PM | #22 |
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Definitely worth trying Just find a solution for the tips maybe? If a stock set up just with Maddads are already sounding pretty aggressive then this has a better chance imo. I don't think anyone can make a real comment on the presence/level of drone with that in your mind but my bet is it will at least be better than fully stock with that fake resonater.
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