Braking system Performance,UPgrade М

[BiscottiGelato]

Originally Posted by Focusedintntions

You're not going to beat the RB rotors. They're practically works of art lol

Yeah, but trying to find something cheaper. Thinking if the RBs are a little overkill... I do 3/4 track days max a year. 20 minutes sessions. Just want close to no fade...

[RimasRS]

Originally Posted by fourtailpipes

they're very nice, but there's something to be said for an increase in diameter too. ultimately i'm still holding out for a matching front and rear floating setup. ECS does this for audis, including affordable caliper upgrades as well (using the very nice 6-pot cayenne calipers). When are we due for some similar consideration?

For VAG group it's very easy, because they have 5x112 bolt patern and you can just take brakes even used from PORSCHE Cayene

[fourtailpipes]

Originally Posted by RimasRS

For VAG group it's very easy, because they have 5x112 bolt patern and you can just take brakes even used from PORSCHE Cayene

creating a brake kit with the cayenne brembo caliper is no more convenient on an audi than a bmw. VAG group cars do not share bolt patterns; audis are 5x112, while porsches are 5x130. the rotors in the ECS audi kits are made/sourced specifically for the kit, just like they'd have to do for our cars (along with the caliper brackets and misc. other pieces).

[RimasRS]

Originally Posted by fourtailpipes

creating a brake kit with the cayenne brembo caliper is no more convenient on an audi than a bmw. VAG group cars do not share bolt patterns; audis are 5x112, while porsches are 5x130. the rotors in the ECS audi kits are made/sourced specifically for the kit, just like they'd have to do for our cars (along with the caliper brackets and misc. other pieces).

Well cayenne is built on Vw toureg wheel base so it has 5x112 bolt patern
And swaping the brakes is easy job like i said u can buy them used

[fourtailpipes]

Originally Posted by RimasRS

Well cayenne is built on Vw toureg wheel base so it has 5x112 bolt patern
And swaping the brakes is easy job like i said u can buy them used

please google this kind of thing if you're not certain. the cayenne and touareg are both 5x130, not 5x112. the european touareg is 5x120 iirc, but again, not 5x112, and that's irrelevant anyway. see my post above. the caliper is the only substantial part of the cayenne braking system being reused in these kits.

[fourtailpipes]

lets get this back on topic... has anyone made any progress securing a set of the brackets in the first post? i'd really love to get a pair of these, and don't want to see this just slip through the cracks.

[BiscottiGelato]

What is the main benefit over RB rotors in going with these M3 Competition/Z4M rotors? Price? I am also wondering if cross drilled is any good.

[fourtailpipes]

Originally Posted by BiscottiGelato

What is the main benefit over RB rotors in going with these M3 Competition/Z4M rotors? Price? I am also wondering if cross drilled is any good.

price, oem part (some people like me like this), and increased diameter. cross drilled rotors aren't ideal for track use... they cool better than slotted rotors (all things being equal), but could suffer a marginally higher failure rate (though to be fair, i haven't heard of any failures in these zcp rotors)

[tro-nik]

In Gegenwart von zwei der Adapter in Deutschland
In the presence of two sets of adapters in Germany
Sergey Shmidt
Robert-Koch-Str. 28
16225 Eberswalde

+4917624396506

[chachacha28]

sent the girl a message and told her to call the guy. If they are 200 euro a set or less, she will buy both sets.

[chachacha28]

She said she scooped up 2 sets from the guy for 200 euro a set. I figured I'd scoop another set just incase this was the only opportunity to get them.

[chachacha28]

three posts in a row.

do you guys think these rotors would work? http://www.racingbrake.com/Two_piece...tio_p/2102.htm

they are the E46 M3 ZCP rotors from RB. i assuming since the oem rotors bolted up, the RB's would be the same story. too bad the are 100 bucks more for 7 mm's. they are 30m wide though, while stock is 26mm. might not bolt up with brand new pads.

[tro-nik]

Originally Posted by ezeedee

three posts in a row.

do you guys think these rotors would work? http://www.racingbrake.com/Two_piece...tio_p/2102.htm

they are the E46 M3 ZCP rotors from RB. i assuming since the oem rotors bolted up, the RB's would be the same story. too bad the are 100 bucks more for 7 mm's. they are 30m wide though, while stock is 26mm. might not bolt up with brand new pads.

Two-piece rotor (Open Slot) - Z4M, M3 (E46 Competition Package) FRONT 04-06
MSRP (pair): $915.30
Sale Price (pair): $823.78
You save $91.52!
Part Number: 2102
345x30mm (13.6" x 1.2") (OE is 345x28)
Rotor Wt (lbs.): 18.0
Product Code: 2102

Two-piece rotor PB 345x30mm do not use with OE calipers BMW.
Maximum size (thickness) of brake discs 28mm.

[fourtailpipes]

partly from learning that replacement rings for the RB setup are essentially the same price as a new pair (including hats), i've been growing disenchanted with the RB solution. if they were to sell replacement rings for something less than a slap in the face, i'd give them a little more thought, but for now the adapter and BMW 2-piece rotor is a much more appealing solution to me.

[135nRXP]

I've read thru this and I'm still a little confused. Going back to the OP, can we get these caliper bracket and rotors and will it behind the OEM 18" wheels??

[Focusedintntions]

You cannot get these to fit behind oem wheels...you'll need a spacer at least or aftermarket wheels with a correct offset.

FYI i'm working on making some of these brackets here stateside to work with the e92 m3 rotors which are larger than these. e82 rotors are 338mm, the ones he's using are 345mm...and i'm going to put in 360mm rotors

[guis]

Fantastic kit!

[BiscottiGelato]

Originally Posted by Focusedintntions

You cannot get these to fit behind oem wheels...you'll need a spacer at least or aftermarket wheels with a correct offset.

FYI i'm working on making some of these brackets here stateside to work with the e92 m3 rotors which are larger than these. e82 rotors are 338mm, the ones he's using are 345mm...and i'm going to put in 360mm rotors

So the bracket you are trying to come up with will allow the e82 calipers to fit over 360mm rotors? Is that really possible? If so, and at a reasonable price (<$200 both sides) that'll be epic!

[Focusedintntions]

Something like that but possibly with a cheap caliper upgrade

[JB135MDCT]

Originally Posted by Focusedintntions

You cannot get these to fit behind oem wheels...you'll need a spacer at least or aftermarket wheels with a correct offset.

FYI i'm working on making some of these brackets here stateside to work with the e92 m3 rotors which are larger than these. e82 rotors are 338mm, the ones he's using are 345mm...and i'm going to put in 360mm rotors

Yep.

Originally Posted by BiscottiGelato

So the bracket you are trying to come up with will allow the e82 calipers to fit over 360mm rotors? Is that really possible? If so, and at a reasonable price (<$200 both sides) that'll be epic!

Yep.

[chachacha28]

decided to cancel the order. 200 euro a piece wasnt worth it to me for just 7mm more, and the inability to run 2 piece rotors was a deal breaker.

[RimasRS]

Originally Posted by ezeedee

decided to cancel the order. 200 euro a piece wasnt worth it to me for just 7mm more, and the inability to run 2 piece rotors was a deal breaker.

So what did get?