Winter tire 1m discussion

Melodic Agony · 08-27-2011, 11:17 AM

My bad! I was reading this thread because it is about snow tires and didn't notice that it is a 1M-specific thread. I drive a 135i. Tirerack.com assures me that I can fit 17" rims on my car...

theblackangus · 08-27-2011, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by HERR FSTIR

It seems studded tires are more common in ANC since the roads tend to ice up more often down there. Despite using studless winter tires for years without problem, I wonder if studded might be a better choice since the 1M seems to have traction problems even under optimal driving conditions.

Tirerack.com has a lot of winter packages for the M3 which presumably work on the 1M. Most, however, are 19" wheels. Not sure 255s on the rear would be a wise idea for winter conditions. I was considering the following:

I have these wheels in 18x9.5 and 18x8.5. I run 18" blizacks, Im going to use these for my 1M snow tires as long as they work.

I think the most cost effective route would be some 18"'s (square) and 18" blizacks.(SP?)

HERR FSTIR · 08-27-2011, 01:38 PM

I decided to go with 235/255 Blizzak LM-60 tires mounted on 19 x 8.5/9.5 VMR wheels. Our road conditions during the winter are actually decent (clear but very cold asphalt with limited amounts of ice), and I plan on driving the 1M only now and then during the winter months.

DarthColin · 08-30-2011, 04:18 PM

If any one knows someone with a 135 or 3 series and wants a set of replica M6 wheels, black, let me know. The ones I ordered don't fit over the 1M front brakes.

Tuned1M · 08-31-2011, 01:39 PM

I just spoke to TireRack and they said they can't guarantee their Sport Edition A7's 18x9 would work up front. Should I just go with the recommended staggered package for now? I was really hoping for a square setup for winter.

HERR FSTIR · 08-31-2011, 03:07 PM

People at tire rack also told me they won't have some of the 19" rims in stock until mid November, at the earliest. This led me to source 19" wheels elsewhere.

hollysmac · 08-31-2011, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuned1

I just spoke to TireRack and they said they can't guarantee their Sport Edition A7's 18x9 would work up front. Should I just go with the recommended staggered package for now? I was really hoping for a square setup for winter.

http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/Wheel...t+Grey+Painted

These are the whirls I used for my e46M3. I know they fit the 1m because I had to use them for 2 weeks when I ruined a wheel and Tire in June and had to wait for my dealer to order a 1m wheel & tire. They sit without spacers. I use Perelli Sotozeroes.

Holly

Tuned1M · 08-31-2011, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by hollysmac

http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/Wheel...t+Grey+Painted

These are the whirls I used for my e46M3. I know they fit the 1m because I had to use them for 2 weeks when I ruined a wheel and Tire in June and had to wait for my dealer to order a 1m wheel & tire. They sit without spacers. I use Perelli Sotozeroes.

Holly

Great, so you went with 18x9's upfront then? No rubbing I assume?

hollysmac · 08-31-2011, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuned1

Great, so you went with 18x9's upfront then? No rubbing I assume?

No, It was a tight fit. I plan to order 12mm spacers for both front & back strictly for looks. The advantage is that the fit will not be so tight over the calipers.

LuuZ · 09-01-2011, 02:33 AM

Hey there, as I will get my 1M under the christmas tree (and there's snow here in Belgium) I asked to get it directly with 18" ///M wheels and Michelin Pilot Alpin.
So I will let you know if they're secure or "Torque Holiday on Ice" despite winter tires........

toni8284 · 09-20-2011, 03:25 PM

Based on the VMR VB3 on M3 :

18"x8.5" +20mm Front
18"x9.5" +22mm Rear

based on the calculation, the front will EXTEND 5mm outside.

Is that meaning the tire will rub?

hollysmac · 09-20-2011, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toni8284

Based on the VMR VB3 on M3 :

18"x8.5" +20mm Front
18"x9.5" +22mm Rear

based on the calculation, the front will EXTEND 5mm outside.

Is that meaning the tire will rub?

5mm is approximately .20 of an inch i.e. 1/5th of an inch i.e. less than 1/4 an inch. not much. I think it may depend upon whether your car is lowered.

hollysmac · 09-20-2011, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuned1

Great, so you went with 18x9's upfront then? No rubbing I assume?

I am using 18" 9.5 for my track wheels with 265 tires. They have no rubbing issues so you have a lot of latitude with your narrower snow tires. The tightness is with the calipers not the fender-- Hence the spacers to bring it away from the calipers.

BTW this is making me realize why my family runs screaming when I get on my which tire and/or wheel should I buy obsession.

I'm now worrying about next years track/autox tires. This is why my late husband used to send me off to wing/beer night with the boys while he went to "tree Hugger" outdoorsman cr*p night.

holly

DarthColin · 09-20-2011, 07:29 PM

I made my 18x8" wheels fit over the front calipers by using a 12 mm spacer. Not very much room left (>5mm), but the wheel spins freely now. Tire order is next. Will show pics when completed and mounted.
CM

Ender_ · 09-20-2011, 09:32 PM

I'm I the only one that hasn't found this theard help full? I just like to know what 18" rims would fit the 1M for winter tires and ideally no the ugly one's on tireracks site.

Anyone??

ayao · 09-20-2011, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ender_

I'm I the only one that hasn't found this theard help full? I just like to know what 18" rims would fit the 1M for winter tires and ideally no the ugly one's on tireracks site.

Anyone??

I've always been fond of the stock anthracite 18" wheels that came on the E9x M3s. Pricey, though.

Getagrip · 09-21-2011, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DarthColin

I made my 18x8" wheels fit over the front calipers by using a 12 mm spacer. Not very much room left (>5mm), but the wheel spins freely now. Tire order is next. Will show pics when completed and mounted.
CM

What was the starting wheel offset of those 18X8 wheels before the 12MM spacers?

I was thinking of these in 18x8 +20mm

DarthColin · 09-21-2011, 09:26 AM

The starting offset was 37 mm, front and rear.
Here is a photo of the front wheel, sans tire.

Ender_ · 09-21-2011, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Getagrip

I was thinking of these in 18x8 +20mm

What are these? Are you sure they would fit with the spacers?

ZCP M3 · 09-21-2011, 10:30 PM

Has anyone tried 18" E46 M3 stock wheels? I'd like to use a set of all fronts with some spacers.

Getagrip · 09-21-2011, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Ender_

What are these? Are you sure they would fit with the spacers?

Not sure. I figure a +20mm would keep the spoke off the caliper face.
Still researching.

hollysmac · 09-22-2011, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ZCP M3

Has anyone tried 18" E46 M3 stock wheels? I'd like to use a set of all fronts with some spacers.

I have 2 left over from my E46. If it doesn't rain this weekend I'll try to summon up the energy to put them on an take a picture. Can't promise.

Holly

08-27-2011, 01:38 PM	#47
HERR FSTIR Captain Drives: VO 1M, E92 335x, E61 530x Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Frozen Tundra Posts: 675 iTrader: (0)	I decided to go with 235/255 Blizzak LM-60 tires mounted on 19 x 8.5/9.5 VMR wheels. Our road conditions during the winter are actually decent (clear but very cold asphalt with limited amounts of ice), and I plan on driving the 1M only now and then during the winter months. Attached Images
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08-30-2011, 04:18 PM	#48
DarthColin Second Lieutenant Drives: 2011 1 Series M Coupe Join Date: May 2009 Location: Grenfell, SK Posts: 210 iTrader: (0)	If any one knows someone with a 135 or 3 series and wants a set of replica M6 wheels, black, let me know. The ones I ordered don't fit over the 1M front brakes. __________________ ‘If it even looks like rain and you pretend to be Michael Schumacher in a 599 GTO, you’ll end up in a tree’ -Clarkson
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09-20-2011, 03:25 PM	#55
toni8284 Lieutenant Drives: VO 1M Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Upper Darby, PA Posts: 436 iTrader: (1) Garage List 2011 BMW 1M [5.00]	Based on the VMR VB3 on M3 : 18"x8.5" +20mm Front 18"x9.5" +22mm Rear based on the calculation, the front will EXTEND 5mm outside. Is that meaning the tire will rub? __________________ 2011 VO 1M - 401/740 \| BMW Perf. Grilles \| BMW Perf. Spoiler \| ER Charge Pipe w/ HKS BOV \| LUX Angle Eyes
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09-20-2011, 07:29 PM	#58
DarthColin Second Lieutenant Drives: 2011 1 Series M Coupe Join Date: May 2009 Location: Grenfell, SK Posts: 210 iTrader: (0)	I made my 18x8" wheels fit over the front calipers by using a 12 mm spacer. Not very much room left (>5mm), but the wheel spins freely now. Tire order is next. Will show pics when completed and mounted. CM __________________ ‘If it even looks like rain and you pretend to be Michael Schumacher in a 599 GTO, you’ll end up in a tree’ -Clarkson
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09-21-2011, 09:26 AM	#62
DarthColin Second Lieutenant Drives: 2011 1 Series M Coupe Join Date: May 2009 Location: Grenfell, SK Posts: 210 iTrader: (0)	The starting offset was 37 mm, front and rear. Here is a photo of the front wheel, sans tire. Attached Images __________________ ‘If it even looks like rain and you pretend to be Michael Schumacher in a 599 GTO, you’ll end up in a tree’ -Clarkson
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08-27-2011, 11:17 AM	#45
Melodic Agony New Member Drives: 2012 135i Cabriolet Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 10 iTrader: (0)	My bad! I was reading this thread because it is about snow tires and didn't notice that it is a 1M-specific thread. I drive a 135i. Tirerack.com assures me that I can fit 17" rims on my car...
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08-31-2011, 01:39 PM	#49
Tuned1M Brigadier General Drives: Sakhir Orange M4 on order Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Earth Posts: 3,255 iTrader: (1)	I just spoke to TireRack and they said they can't guarantee their Sport Edition A7's 18x9 would work up front. Should I just go with the recommended staggered package for now? I was really hoping for a square setup for winter.
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08-31-2011, 03:07 PM	#50
HERR FSTIR Captain Drives: VO 1M, E92 335x, E61 530x Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Frozen Tundra Posts: 675 iTrader: (0)	People at tire rack also told me they won't have some of the 19" rims in stock until mid November, at the earliest. This led me to source 19" wheels elsewhere.
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09-01-2011, 02:33 AM	#54
LuuZ Second Lieutenant Drives: BMW 1M - 997 Carrera 4 (sold) Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Belgium Posts: 201 iTrader: (0)	Hey there, as I will get my 1M under the christmas tree (and there's snow here in Belgium) I asked to get it directly with 18" ///M wheels and Michelin Pilot Alpin. So I will let you know if they're secure or "Torque Holiday on Ice" despite winter tires........
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09-20-2011, 09:32 PM	#59
Ender_ Lieutenant Drives: BMW 1M VO Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Ottawa Posts: 429 iTrader: (0)	I'm I the only one that hasn't found this theard help full? I just like to know what 18" rims would fit the 1M for winter tires and ideally no the ugly one's on tireracks site. Anyone??
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09-21-2011, 10:30 PM	#64
ZCP M3 First Lieutenant Drives: 2011 VO 1M Coupe #759 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 385 iTrader: (0)	Has anyone tried 18" E46 M3 stock wheels? I'd like to use a set of all fronts with some spacers.
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