BMW 1 Series Coupe Forum / 1 Series Convertible Forum (1M / tii / 135i / 128i / Coupe / Cabrio / Hatchback) (BMW E82 E88 128i 130i 135i)
 





 

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      04-16-2012, 04:52 PM   #1
Obioban
Captain
 
Drives: 05 M3, 95 M3 euro, 01 M5, e91
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: West Chester, PA

Posts: 826
iTrader: (0)

Does anyone do the factory 130i or 330i hardware?

So, per wikipedia,

Quote:
The N52B30 is available in three versions, all displacing 3.0 L (2996 cc/182 in3). However, each version produces variable maximum output depending upon the application. With a common engine displacement, the output changes result from the omission of the variable resonance system, dual plenum intake runner system, and the variable back pressure muffler: 190 kW (255 hp) at 6600 and 300 N·m (221 lb·ft) at 2500-4000 rpm is the first and most produced version, while the second one is more powerful at 195 kW (265 hp) at 6600 and 315 N·m (232 lb·ft) at 2750-4250 rpm. The third version is just starting to replace the first 190 kW (258 PS; 255 hp) versions on the E90/E60 in late 2006 and has first been released on the new E92 330i Coupé. It will produce 200 kW (272 hp) at 6650 and 315 N·m (232 lb·ft) at 2750-4250 rpm.
Looking at real OEM, the euro 330i intake manifold is $550. Seems not prohibitively expensive. Seems like that, something exhaust side, and a tune should get you to 330i engine status, no?

Am I missing something?
__________________

Current Cars: 2005 IR/IR M3, 2001 LMB/blk M5, Wife's e91, 1995 S50 B32 GT3 RS Green M3 Race Car
Former Cars: 2004 TiAg/IR M3, 1996 TV/black M3, 1995 AW M3 shell
M3 Mod List, M5 Mod List
Obioban is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      04-16-2012, 05:19 PM   #2
Dackelone
Moderator
 
Dackelone's Avatar
 
Drives: 135i Silber mit/Rot 6MT N54
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Bayern, Germany

Posts: 16,008
iTrader: (1)

The euro tuners can tune the DISA valve (inside the intake manifold) to get close to 330i/130i specs. I think 273 PS from what I remember. Trouble is that the tune is not cheap. Around 800 euros. I posted some dyno graphs on MS Tuning offering one such tune. Try searching for it.
Dackelone is offline   Germany
0
Reply With Quote
      04-16-2012, 05:23 PM   #3
Dackelone
Moderator
 
Dackelone's Avatar
 
Drives: 135i Silber mit/Rot 6MT N54
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Bayern, Germany

Posts: 16,008
iTrader: (1)

Here are the old threads I was thinking about...

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=525796

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=538674
Dackelone is offline   Germany
0
Reply With Quote
      04-16-2012, 06:44 PM   #4
Obioban
Captain
 
Drives: 05 M3, 95 M3 euro, 01 M5, e91
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: West Chester, PA

Posts: 826
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dackelone View Post
Interesting. So why is the 330i intake manifold a different part number?
__________________

Current Cars: 2005 IR/IR M3, 2001 LMB/blk M5, Wife's e91, 1995 S50 B32 GT3 RS Green M3 Race Car
Former Cars: 2004 TiAg/IR M3, 1996 TV/black M3, 1995 AW M3 shell
M3 Mod List, M5 Mod List
Obioban is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      04-16-2012, 11:16 PM   #5
andrey_gta
Colonel
 
andrey_gta's Avatar
 
Drives: 130i coupé ;)
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Bimmerpost

Posts: 2,948
iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2008 BMW 128i  [0.00]
Not sure if euro 330 intake is different from euro 328/325.
Over at e90 post there are small gains documented with it, and a euro mod as a DIY to stock north American airbox.

The main performance boost is the Disa intake manifold that can be tuned by AA in USA and the euro tuners.
Next 130i has a different transmission gearing and maybe catalyc converters and a e87 spec exhaust that may be freer
__________________
128i Sport 6MT converted to Euro 130i spec, tuned by evolve ~220 whp 207 wtq(ft-lb) SAE
In-progress: e46 m3 trans mnt, e36M lip Wishlist: m3 susp, n55 eng mnt, headers, LSD, finn dif e60


"The 1-series is the last car that BMW engineered before the Germans, as a car-making culture, fell out of love with driving." - R&T 2013 135is
andrey_gta is offline   Canada
0
Reply With Quote
      04-17-2012, 02:56 PM   #6
TheSt|G
Resident Tamed Racing Driver
 
TheSt|G's Avatar
 
Drives: 911, 130is, E39 M5, E36 M3
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Outside Philly

Posts: 3,971
iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dackelone View Post
The euro tuners can tune the DISA valve (inside the intake manifold) to get close to 330i/130i specs. I think 273 PS from what I remember. Trouble is that the tune is not cheap. Around 800 euros. I posted some dyno graphs on MS Tuning offering one such tune. Try searching for it.
Doesn't sound too bad to me on the price?
TheSt|G is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      04-18-2012, 10:22 PM   #7
andrey_gta
Colonel
 
andrey_gta's Avatar
 
Drives: 130i coupé ;)
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Bimmerpost

Posts: 2,948
iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2008 BMW 128i  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSt|G View Post
Doesn't sound too bad to me on the price?
First you need to source a DISA intake, its about 800-900 new,much less if used.
__________________
128i Sport 6MT converted to Euro 130i spec, tuned by evolve ~220 whp 207 wtq(ft-lb) SAE
In-progress: e46 m3 trans mnt, e36M lip Wishlist: m3 susp, n55 eng mnt, headers, LSD, finn dif e60


"The 1-series is the last car that BMW engineered before the Germans, as a car-making culture, fell out of love with driving." - R&T 2013 135is
andrey_gta is offline   Canada
0
Reply With Quote
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:54 AM.




1addicts
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST