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Bavarian54bimmer · 04-10-2012, 06:11 PM

Greetings!

So it happened at last ! I ditched the ''Stupid RFT's'' as Richard Hammond say

and installed the PSS's on my OEM tires ( and i was grateful to see that they are not cracked ) and the driving impressions were absolutely terrific.

It is no Placebo effect, it is for real , it's like Night & Day and thus i can certify that each day driving the RFT's is as per say a '' Lost Day'' .

Now the Bimmer is Alive, am getting back the telepathic connection i once had with my old E46 and the ride is light years better and having driven my ride for few 10's of miles i can't help but ask my self why on earth BMW have choosen to go with these Stupid RFT's.

Their Freaking Arguments :

Quote:

We chose to include Run-flat technology on our vehicles for the following reasons:

It is dangerous to stop on any road to change a tyre, especially on a motorway or at night.
There is no need to have to wait for a breakdown service to arrive.
Safety and security of the driver and passenger(s) is maintained.
Alloy wheels are difficult to detach from steel hubs.
On most cars the spare is under the contents of the boot, and uses boot space.
It can be tricky to line up the wheel bolt holes with the hub screw holes and match the thread.
The dirty punctured tyre needs to be removed and stored in the boot.
Another puncture before the punctured tyre is mended means one is stranded.
A driver can continue for 150 miles at 50mph with a punctured Run-flat tyre.

This argument is just nonsensical and it makes BMW drivers look like they're Stupid because all these Arguments above can be dismissed by only 1 sentence : Why the Hell Didn't you give the M Cars these same RFT's??? Aren't you Concerned by M car Owners Safety as Well ?? BS Guys!

Am sorry Bro's if you're on RFT's i highly recommend you testing a car with regular Tires you'll see what's up!

regards & thank you all for all for making me go the PSS way , it's like a New Car

PS: now my Signature looks Cooler with the Michelin PSS added

135iUSN · 04-10-2012, 06:47 PM

They are on my radar as well.

Eddie135 · 04-10-2012, 06:59 PM

RFT's = Run...Crap

:
Feels like riding on stones not rubber.

MPSS = FTW

FDM68 · 04-11-2012, 09:11 AM

I'm getting mine installed This Friday...cannot wait.

pdr1269 · 04-11-2012, 06:37 PM

I've got em too! I like them! 100% better than runcraps!

sparkyblue · 04-11-2012, 07:00 PM

You are lucky, I had to get new wheels when I went to get my RFT's replaced with MPSS. Two bent wheels & 1 with a crack on the inside.

Loving the new ride though.

On a side note for your sig, 08 135i's only came in Alpine White, not Pearl White.

I personally am a huge fan of pearl white (on 07 STi's/RSX-S's/IS350's) but unfortunately BMW doesn't give us this color option.

Bavarian54bimmer · 04-11-2012, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sparkyblue

You are lucky, I had to get new wheels when I went to get my RFT's replaced with MPSS. Two bent wheels & 1 with a crack on the inside.

Loving the new ride though.

On a side note for your sig, 08 135i's only came in Alpine White, not Pearl White.

I personally am a huge fan of pearl white (on 07 STi's/RSX-S's/IS350's) but unfortunately BMW doesn't give us this color option.

Indeed , thanks bro

ILoveChess100 · 04-12-2012, 10:59 PM

I just got my rears replaced with the 255/35 MPSS. From reading around before I made my purchase I was wondering if there was some placebo effect thing going on with all the raves on the MPSS, but its definitely real stuff! Especially with my odd temporary setup right now which has the original 215/40 RFTs upfront and the MPSS 255/35 in the rear, the back half of the car feels completely smooth, compliant, and grippy, while the front is bouncing around all over the place. Going over pot holes that both the front and rear tires hit, the front RFTs make a crazy thumping sound and bounce, while the rear MPSS just absorb it with barely any sound or vibration.

[Before everyone yells at me for being crazy on my RFT front, MPSS rear setup, I am swapping the fronts soon... I just wanted to eat up some more tread on the front as they were holding up quite well compared to the rears eventhough I do a lot of aggressive driving]

Eddie135 · 04-12-2012, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILoveChess100

I just got my rears replaced with the 255/35 MPSS. From reading around before I made my purchase I was wondering if there was some placebo effect thing going on with all the raves on the MPSS, but its definitely real stuff! Especially with my odd temporary setup right now which has the original 215/40 RFTs upfront and the MPSS 255/35 in the rear, the back half of the car feels completely smooth, compliant, and grippy, while the front is bouncing around all over the place. Going over pot holes that both the front and rear tires hit, the front RFTs make a crazy thumping sound and bounce, while the rear MPSS just absorb it with barely any sound or vibration.

[Before everyone yells at me for being crazy on my RFT front, MPSS rear setup, I am swapping the fronts soon... I just wanted to eat up some more tread on the front as they were holding up quite well compared to the rears eventhough I do a lot of aggressive driving]

Great choice

I am also wearing out my stock RFT's before switching to MPSS.

Pol · 04-13-2012, 05:43 AM

I ditched my RTF-crap with 2000km on the 313's for a fair price. Tomorrow they will be replaced by Michelin SP3 18-225-40 and 18-255-35.
Here in Belgium the PSS's aren't on sale in those measures. As for 19", obviously no problems.

sochermit · 04-13-2012, 05:49 AM

Which Michelin tire is recommended to replace the 135i RFT's?

doublevanosrc · 05-09-2012, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sochermit

Which Michelin tire is recommended to replace the 135i RFT's?

Michelin Pilot Sport 2 Zero Pressure, they're pricing.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....t+Sport+PS2+ZP

ptack · 05-09-2012, 03:17 PM

The run crap rationale might be fine if you're a woman with a 328i sedan and don't know how to change a tire and always drive the car in the least exciting manner possible. Sticking them on 135is is an insult. This car should have been equipped just as well as an M3.
Thank God for PSSs.

TheSt|G · 05-11-2012, 12:39 AM

Seeing as tires are the single largest determinant of nearly every performance and comfort characteristic, it staggers me that people cheap out.

Bravo on getting the best summers on the market.

sochermit · 05-11-2012, 03:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSt|G

Seeing as tires are the single largest determinant of nearly every performance and comfort characteristic, it staggers me that people cheap out.

Bravo on getting the best summers on the market.

I am in total agreement with you.

hangover · 05-12-2012, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSt|G

Seeing as tires are the single largest determinant of nearly every performance and comfort characteristic, it staggers me that people cheap out.

Bravo on getting the best summers on the market.

+10000

I love my Michelin PSS so far. WOW. My 135i rocks out.

BiscottiGelato · 05-12-2012, 09:21 PM

Do people find the 225/255 on stock rims give a really meaty tires look? It's awesome! Even tho deep inside me, I regret going staggered... Maybe someday, I'll get those new APEX rims that they are proposing, 235/235 or something.

TheSt|G · 05-13-2012, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BiscottiGelato

Do people find the 225/255 on stock rims give a really meaty tires look? It's awesome! Even tho deep inside me, I regret going staggered... Maybe someday, I'll get those new APEX rims that they are proposing, 235/235 or something.

That's my future right now. Square 235 PSS on those new APEX EC-7s, I'm just waiting for the group buy.

eaglemike · 05-13-2012, 01:37 PM

I'm jumping on the wagon as of Monday. Thanks to all for the testimonials about these tires! Looks like 225/255 is the way to go. This also provides a little more sidewall. Anyone think this might provide a little more pothole protection? Think it might slow response just the tiniest amount? Not a big deal, just wondering... Thanks!

Oh yeah - the stock RFT in a sweeper at any decent speed are scary over any road irregularity!!!

eaglemike · 05-15-2012, 08:16 PM

Has anyone had any DSC warning lights using the 225/255 tires? My tires evidently just came in, and I had a messgae from the parts guy sating this might be an issue....

Thanks!!

aerobod · 05-15-2012, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eaglemike

Has anyone had any DSC warning lights using the 225/255 tires? My tires evidently just came in, and I had a messgae from the parts guy sating this might be an issue....

Thanks!!

No issue with DSC warning lights with 225/40-18 front and 255/35-18 rear PSS tyres on OEM wheels on our 135i.

eaglemike · 05-16-2012, 01:32 AM

Thanks VERY much.

04-10-2012, 06:47 PM	#2
135iUSN 135i is fun at 155mph Drives: 135i Alpine White / Terra Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The World Posts: 1,335 iTrader: (1) Garage List 2009 135i [0.00] 2008 VW R32 [0.00]	They are on my radar as well. __________________ '09 135i / Dinan Stage 2 / Alpine White w/Terracotta / High Gloss Black Trim / ZCW / ZPP / ZSP w/313's / CA / PDC / Step & Paddle Shift / iDrive / iPod-USB / Perf Kidney Grills / LCI Tails / Passport 9500ix / M Floor Mats '11 LR4 HSE LUX / RSE / Vison pk / HD pk ///

04-10-2012, 06:59 PM	#3
Eddie135 N55 Commando Drives: 135i - DCT - N55 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Melbourne Posts: 636 iTrader: (0)	RFT's = Run...Crap : Feels like riding on stones not rubber. MPSS = FTW __________________ PPK-Stage 2 \| BMW 313 Wheels \| BMW CF Spoiler \| BMW CF Mirror Caps \| BMW Y-Pipe \| BMW CF Diffuser \| Black LCI Tailights \| K&N Drop-In \| iCarbon CF Front Lip \| LUX V3 \| PIVOT-Raizin Voltage Stabilizer \|

04-11-2012, 09:11 AM	#4
FDM68 Captain Drives: 11' 135i Join Date: May 2010 Location: Georgia (hearts still in Germany) Posts: 753 iTrader: (0)	I'm getting mine installed This Friday...cannot wait. __________________

05-09-2012, 03:17 PM	#13
ptack Brigadier General Drives: 135i Join Date: May 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 4,093 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 135i [3.00]	The run crap rationale might be fine if you're a woman with a 328i sedan and don't know how to change a tire and always drive the car in the least exciting manner possible. Sticking them on 135is is an insult. This car should have been equipped just as well as an M3. Thank God for PSSs. __________________ 135i, SGM, Coral, Sport Package, Auto, Premium Hifi, USB/ipod, Forgestar F14s, PPK Stage II

05-12-2012, 09:21 PM	#17
BiscottiGelato Lieutenant Drives: 09 135i M Sport 6MT Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: GVA Posts: 583 iTrader: (1)	Do people find the 225/255 on stock rims give a really meaty tires look? It's awesome! Even tho deep inside me, I regret going staggered... Maybe someday, I'll get those new APEX rims that they are proposing, 235/235 or something. __________________ Ground Control Camber Plates w/ PSS. Ferrodo D2500 w/ Slotted Rotors on RBF600 Fluids.

04-11-2012, 06:37 PM	#5
pdr1269 Private First Class Drives: 2011 135i 6mt Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: San Diego,CA. Posts: 169 iTrader: (1)	I've got em too! I like them! 100% better than runcraps!

04-11-2012, 07:00 PM	#6
sparkyblue Lieutenant Drives: E82 135i Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Fremont, California Posts: 449 iTrader: (4) Garage List 2008 BMW 135i [0.00]	You are lucky, I had to get new wheels when I went to get my RFT's replaced with MPSS. Two bent wheels & 1 with a crack on the inside. Loving the new ride though. On a side note for your sig, 08 135i's only came in Alpine White, not Pearl White. I personally am a huge fan of pearl white (on 07 STi's/RSX-S's/IS350's) but unfortunately BMW doesn't give us this color option.

04-12-2012, 10:59 PM	#8
ILoveChess100 Private Drives: 2011 135i (DCT, Sport/PremPkg) Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: CA, Orange County Posts: 52 iTrader: (0)	I just got my rears replaced with the 255/35 MPSS. From reading around before I made my purchase I was wondering if there was some placebo effect thing going on with all the raves on the MPSS, but its definitely real stuff! Especially with my odd temporary setup right now which has the original 215/40 RFTs upfront and the MPSS 255/35 in the rear, the back half of the car feels completely smooth, compliant, and grippy, while the front is bouncing around all over the place. Going over pot holes that both the front and rear tires hit, the front RFTs make a crazy thumping sound and bounce, while the rear MPSS just absorb it with barely any sound or vibration. [Before everyone yells at me for being crazy on my RFT front, MPSS rear setup, I am swapping the fronts soon... I just wanted to eat up some more tread on the front as they were holding up quite well compared to the rears eventhough I do a lot of aggressive driving]

04-13-2012, 05:43 AM	#10
Pol Nobody is perfect ! Drives: 135i Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Belgium Posts: 397 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 135i Coupe [5.00]	I ditched my RTF-crap with 2000km on the 313's for a fair price. Tomorrow they will be replaced by Michelin SP3 18-225-40 and 18-255-35. Here in Belgium the PSS's aren't on sale in those measures. As for 19", obviously no problems.

04-13-2012, 05:49 AM	#11
sochermit Lieutenant Drives: 2003 325i, 2012 135i Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Canyon Lake, TX Posts: 499 iTrader: (0)	Which Michelin tire is recommended to replace the 135i RFT's?

05-11-2012, 12:39 AM	#14
TheSt\|G Resident Tamed Racing Driver Drives: 130is 6MT, E39 M5, E36 M3 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Outside Philly Posts: 1,045 iTrader: (2)	Seeing as tires are the single largest determinant of nearly every performance and comfort characteristic, it staggers me that people cheap out. Bravo on getting the best summers on the market.

05-13-2012, 01:37 PM	#19
eaglemike Enlisted Member Drives: 2011 E88 N55 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: San Diego Posts: 47 iTrader: (0)	I'm jumping on the wagon as of Monday. Thanks to all for the testimonials about these tires! Looks like 225/255 is the way to go. This also provides a little more sidewall. Anyone think this might provide a little more pothole protection? Think it might slow response just the tiniest amount? Not a big deal, just wondering... Thanks! Oh yeah - the stock RFT in a sweeper at any decent speed are scary over any road irregularity!!!

05-15-2012, 08:16 PM	#20
eaglemike Enlisted Member Drives: 2011 E88 N55 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: San Diego Posts: 47 iTrader: (0)	Has anyone had any DSC warning lights using the 225/255 tires? My tires evidently just came in, and I had a messgae from the parts guy sating this might be an issue.... Thanks!!

05-16-2012, 01:32 AM	#22
eaglemike Enlisted Member Drives: 2011 E88 N55 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: San Diego Posts: 47 iTrader: (0)	Thanks VERY much.

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