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      05-15-2012, 12:16 PM   #23
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I just remembered, E8x chassis has been around since 2004!
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      05-15-2012, 12:17 PM   #24
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So the N54 won't meet future emissions standards? I saw the headline and this car excited me. But I have two key questions: Whats the price? And where's the N54?
Read past the headline? It's bold in paragraph one....
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      05-15-2012, 12:18 PM   #25
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That's definitely a possibility. I could see the e82 continuing for a bit longer than one year. But didn't the X1 take over for the most part where the 1-series were being built?

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I believe that the N54 will not meet upcoming emissions regulations. This 135is model will be sold until next year at least, and perhaps even into 2014 depending on the release timing of the next generation F22 2 series.

I am a bit surprised to see this model given that the E82 is nearing its end of life. In fact its presence may indeed signal that the car will be on the market for more than just one more year as I suggest above.
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      05-15-2012, 12:27 PM   #26
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Actually it isn't the same tune as the M135 because the M135 get's 332lb-ft torque and this gets 317lb-ft torque, this proves the engine of the M135 has been tune a little bit further that the PPK 2, but im pretty sure that this car with DCT will be faster to 60mph than both the M135 and 1M Coupe. Just talking in acceleration figures because in a track things will continue to be different leaving the 1M Coupe the advantage (at least until we know some M135 track times, but the 1M Coupe should continue to run faster around a track)
I don't think so. The PPK produces more torque in cars equipped with automatic transmissions that have torque converters. The 135is has a choice of manual or DCT which does not have a torque converter.
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      05-15-2012, 12:34 PM   #28
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Read past the headline? It's bold in paragraph one....
Gotcha. Disappointing.
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      05-15-2012, 12:36 PM   #29
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I just remembered, E8x chassis has been around since 2004!
True, but remember the E82 (and E88) didn't actually arrive on the scene until 2007. So, 2014 is actually right inline with the usual 7 year BMW model cycle.

Previously there had been some suggestion that the F22 might cut that short, and that BMW would move its release closer to that of the product that debuted the platform, much like how it is done with the 3/4 and 5/6. I.e., it would debut next early year, just prior to the F32, similar to the way the F20 debuted just prior to the F30. However, the lack of any F22 mules to speak of had already cast a lot of doubt on this happening. And the release of this new 135is model just makes it even more unlikely.
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      05-15-2012, 12:44 PM   #30
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That's definitely a possibility. I could see the e82 continuing for a bit longer than one year. But didn't the X1 take over for the most part where the 1-series were being built?
I don't know where the 1 series and X1 are built to be honest. But, regardless of that, to my knowledge BMW does not plan any gaps in production for the 1 series. So if they did plan to wind it down, it wouldn't be to free up more capacity for the X1, it would be to ramp up on the new model.
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      05-15-2012, 12:45 PM   #31
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135is....M135i...the April fools day it's only next year..!
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So now we have a 135i a 1M an M135i and a 135is?

What a bloody pointless lineup!
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      05-15-2012, 12:49 PM   #33
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looks good.

would've been way cooler if it had black exhaust tips in the dual "335 style"

doesn't look different enough
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      05-15-2012, 12:51 PM   #34
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      05-15-2012, 01:02 PM   #35
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      05-15-2012, 01:04 PM   #36
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I think that a 135is is great, but the people who really wanted a bad ass 135 already got a 1M and the rest are waiting the 12-24 months until the next body comes out.

And unlike the rest of y'all, I'll go ahead and say all BMWs are bad ass and I don't care which 1er you drive. There is no 1M>135is etc.
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      05-15-2012, 01:09 PM   #37
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True, but remember the E82 (and E88) didn't actually arrive on the scene until 2007. So, 2014 is actually right inline with the usual 7 year BMW model cycle.

Previously there had been some suggestion that the F22 might cut that short, and that BMW would move its release closer to that of the product that debuted the platform, much like how it is done with the 3/4 and 5/6. I.e., it would debut next early year, just prior to the F32, similar to the way the F20 debuted just prior to the F30. However, the lack of any F22 mules to speak of had already cast a lot of doubt on this happening. And the release of this new 135is model just makes it even more unlikely.
I remember reading on these forums about the possibility of cutting the current 1er production timeline short to replace it with the next model, but much as you have said I think that BMWAG would be very smart to keep their normal timeline for the 1er and drag the new F30/F31/F32 out as long as possible with the upcoming Olympics (which they have hudreds of millions invested in). I think this 135is was the nail in the coffin for those of us hoping for an early 1er release
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      05-15-2012, 01:15 PM   #39
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Personally, I think BMW should keep the ///M logo specific to those that are 100% M-spec and add the "s" (e.g. 135is, 335is, etc.) to those cars that aren't exactly ///M cars but have a performance upgrade (factory) with some M stuff to it.
I agree fully
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So now we have a 135i a 1M an M135i and a 135is?

What a bloody pointless lineup!
Except the 1M
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I can't believe they are almost charging the same price as what a base 1M sold for....
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