2013 BMW 135is Coupe and Convertible Announced!

GreenLantern · 05-15-2012, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by WW330

So the N54 won't meet future emissions standards? I saw the headline and this car excited me. But I have two key questions: Whats the price? And where's the N54?

Yeah, in Europe though, not the US. (As far as I've been made aware.)

I believe the last we'll ever see of the N54 is the MY2013 335is. http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?p=11969620

dtwo · 05-15-2012, 05:22 PM

Makes me feel really good about my N54 135i..

Does this mean they will have both a 135i and 135is version like the 3's?

Alex_bm · 05-15-2012, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bimmerlover76

Personally, I think BMW should keep the ///M logo specific to those that are 100% M-spec and add the "s" (e.g. 135is, 335is, etc.) to those cars that aren't exactly ///M cars but have a performance upgrade (factory) with some M stuff to it. If BMW is trying to whore-out the ///M to sell more cars, then we are no better than ricers with a fancy badge or oversized muffler attached.

Yes they are and no you are not

ozinaldo · 05-15-2012, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by GreenLantern

Yeah, in Europe though, not the US. (As far as I've been made aware.)

I believe the last we'll ever see of the N54 is the MY2013 335is. http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?p=11969620

And Z4 35 is? That is also leaving the scene?

simianspeedster · 05-15-2012, 07:21 PM

"The 135is is equipped with sport suspension incorporating an aluminum double-pivot front suspension and a five-link fully independent rear suspension in lightweight steel."

So, does this mean it's the exact same suspension as the regular Sports/M-Sports cars or a bit different? I don't know enough about the low level details on the 1 suspension.

BBBluey · 05-15-2012, 08:07 PM

I'd buy it just for that nice badge on the glove box. NOT!
It's a joke...just like the F1 Sauber edition...what a ripoff.

mblaucoupe135 · 05-15-2012, 08:13 PM

I too want to know what color that is, cause I love blue!

Also sounds like no overboost function on this car, which I find interesting since its an 'is.' Also its really not much different than a 135 with M sport package. I have the stage 1 ppk, perf exhaust, perf short shift kit, perf suspension, black grills, cf spoiler and mirrors so it seems that my car is an 'is+'! Lol

KingOfJericho · 05-15-2012, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by GreenLantern

Yeah, in Europe though, not the US. (As far as I've been made aware.)

I believe the last we'll ever see of the N54 is the MY2013 335is. http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?p=11969620

The 335is is currently listed on BMWUSA as having a twinpower turbo, the same as the N55 335i. The same is listed for the Z4 35is. I believe the N54 is already a thing of the past.

lonestar22 · 05-15-2012, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Venom

The best bimmers don't make it to the states

sarcasm...

lonestar22 · 05-15-2012, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by simianspeedster

"The 135is is equipped with sport suspension incorporating an aluminum double-pivot front suspension and a five-link fully independent rear suspension in lightweight steel."

So, does this mean it's the exact same suspension as the regular Sports/M-Sports cars or a bit different? I don't know enough about the low level details on the 1 suspension.

most rear suspensions have aluminum pieces, not steal like the F30 has

red-sauerkraut · 05-15-2012, 09:32 PM

no LSD no dice

Remonster · 05-15-2012, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by KingOfJericho

The 335is is currently listed on BMWUSA as having a twinpower turbo, the same as the N55 335i. The same is listed for the Z4 35is. I believe the N54 is already a thing of the past.

You may believe that, but it's wrong. Both of those cars have the N54, despite BMW's marketing effort to make it seem like the same engine is in all 35i cars.

If you wanted to get all of the Performance parts, this car isn't such a bad deal, but personally I would only want the power kit and exhaust on my 135i so I'd rather just get those for the 135i I already have.

Venom · 05-15-2012, 09:39 PM

The true e36M3, the M3 GTR, M3 GTS, etc. No sarcasm here.

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Originally Posted by lonestar22

sarcasm...

Papethova · 05-15-2012, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jerrypon83

To all the 1M owners, I have to congratulate you all. Your money was well spent. Enjoy your babe.

To early N54 1/3 Series owners, man, we are also lucky

+1

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Originally Posted by ADVANT123

I can't believe they are almost charging the same price as what a base 1M sold for....

i paid less for my 1M with some options than what this "is" is going to retail for 42k vs 44+k

Venom · 05-15-2012, 09:46 PM

When in the future, I do an ED, I am going to ask for your help bargaining

(Hopefully, it will be with an M2.)

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Originally Posted by Papethova

+1

i paid less for my 1M than this "is" is going to retail for

NYC6 · 05-15-2012, 09:48 PM

My 2010 M-sport steptronic with the PPKI has the same hp rating and 15 more ft lbs than either gearboxed 135is. I'll gladly keep what I got.

VGR00 · 05-15-2012, 10:13 PM

I think you all just need to accept the 135is as a marketing ploy to keep the car fresh for another 12 months. Nothing more - nothing less. They were never going to bring out something to upset the 1M customers as those guys bought a limited edition version. I just picked up "Edition sport plus" which is what you guys are finally just getting. The blue stiching on the seats, the blacklines, 313's and all are just cosmetic but they sure make the car look more attractive from pick up.

WULFFZA · 05-15-2012, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ozinaldo

The 1M was a steal for a lucky minority which worked as a image job for the company as well; now BMW is stealing back what they can

I agree nothing should change about the 1M, except that they should build more. Although 1M owners would like to think BMW has their interests at heart and was trying to create a pricing furor to retain value, I don't think that is the case. They are in the business of selling cars, they got the demand wrong and then said the economics didn't work to build more US spec. If I have read correctly original total estimated total production was around 3,000, but actual ended up being way north of that, with no additional coming to the US.

My question is, If the numbers didn't work to 'homologate' more 1Ms for the US, what is the justification for the 135is? This is what makes me believe that BMW USA did intentionally limit the units in the US.

John_01 · 05-15-2012, 11:04 PM

This is a good decision. I like the 135is much better than the M135i. I keep thinking there may be an issue that delayed the 2 series coupe for another 12months - Styling perhaps?

Stock 135i suspension isn't the best, so hopefully the 135is is tied to the road a bit better.

red-sauerkraut · 05-15-2012, 11:40 PM

That's funny... In the rear 3/4 shot of the convertible, there is no side turn indicators on the fender.

simianspeedster · 05-15-2012, 11:49 PM

I see many people saying this model isn't worth the premium because buyers can mod their own cars for less, but you have to remember that a lot of BMWs in the U.S. are leased. Those of us who lease are far less likely to mod our cars, so the idea of a factory built and warranted car with mods can be appealing.

Also, keep in mind that those of us who lease only pay a fraction of the premium that a package like this adds to the sale price. Assuming this car has a residual of around 64% on a 36 month, 12K mile per year lease, the lessee only pays $360 for each $1,000 added to the price.

Just some food for thought...

My 3 Series lease is up this time next year and I'm targeting an E82 lease, so this extra model is worth considering given my situation.

simianspeedster · 05-15-2012, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by lonestar22

most rear suspensions have aluminum pieces, not steal like the F30 has

So are you saying you think this model has a revised suspension compared to a regular Sport/M-Sport E82?

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mblaucoupe135 First Lieutenant Drives: 2012 335is Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Littleton, CO Posts: 387 iTrader: (2)	I too want to know what color that is, cause I love blue! Also sounds like no overboost function on this car, which I find interesting since its an 'is.' Also its really not much different than a 135 with M sport package. I have the stage 1 ppk, perf exhaust, perf short shift kit, perf suspension, black grills, cf spoiler and mirrors so it seems that my car is an 'is+'! Lol __________________ 2012 335is coupe, alpine white with red leather interior
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red-sauerkraut . Drives: m-car / x-car Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: northern hemisphere Posts: 3,346 iTrader: (0)	no LSD no dice __________________ Infinite Driving Pleasure
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red-sauerkraut . Drives: m-car / x-car Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: northern hemisphere Posts: 3,346 iTrader: (0)	That's funny... In the rear 3/4 shot of the convertible, there is no side turn indicators on the fender. __________________ Infinite Driving Pleasure
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05-15-2012, 05:22 PM	#68
dtwo New Member Drives: BMW 135i Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Toronto Posts: 11 iTrader: (0)	Makes me feel really good about my N54 135i.. Does this mean they will have both a 135i and 135is version like the 3's?
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05-15-2012, 07:21 PM	#71
simianspeedster Lieutenant Drives: 2013 128i Coupe Manual Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: The Vast Interwebs... Posts: 598 iTrader: (0)	"The 135is is equipped with sport suspension incorporating an aluminum double-pivot front suspension and a five-link fully independent rear suspension in lightweight steel." So, does this mean it's the exact same suspension as the regular Sports/M-Sports cars or a bit different? I don't know enough about the low level details on the 1 suspension.
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05-15-2012, 08:07 PM	#72
BBBluey Captain Drives: very slow and courteous Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Santa Maria, California Posts: 918 iTrader: (6)	I'd buy it just for that nice badge on the glove box. NOT! It's a joke...just like the F1 Sauber edition...what a ripoff.
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05-15-2012, 09:48 PM	#82
NYC6 Banned Drives: '10 135i PPKI/06 C6 Z51 Vette Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: LI/NY Posts: 2,078 iTrader: (0)	My 2010 M-sport steptronic with the PPKI has the same hp rating and 15 more ft lbs than either gearboxed 135is. I'll gladly keep what I got.
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05-15-2012, 10:13 PM	#83
VGR00 Major Drives: 125I Edition Sport Carbon Blk Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Brisbane - Australia Posts: 1,488 iTrader: (0)	I think you all just need to accept the 135is as a marketing ploy to keep the car fresh for another 12 months. Nothing more - nothing less. They were never going to bring out something to upset the 1M customers as those guys bought a limited edition version. I just picked up "Edition sport plus" which is what you guys are finally just getting. The blue stiching on the seats, the blacklines, 313's and all are just cosmetic but they sure make the car look more attractive from pick up.
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05-15-2012, 11:04 PM	#85
John_01 Lieutenant Colonel Drives: E90 325i, E82 135i Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 1,914 iTrader: (0)	This is a good decision. I like the 135is much better than the M135i. I keep thinking there may be an issue that delayed the 2 series coupe for another 12months - Styling perhaps? Stock 135i suspension isn't the best, so hopefully the 135is is tied to the road a bit better.
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05-15-2012, 11:49 PM	#87
simianspeedster Lieutenant Drives: 2013 128i Coupe Manual Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: The Vast Interwebs... Posts: 598 iTrader: (0)	I see many people saying this model isn't worth the premium because buyers can mod their own cars for less, but you have to remember that a lot of BMWs in the U.S. are leased. Those of us who lease are far less likely to mod our cars, so the idea of a factory built and warranted car with mods can be appealing. Also, keep in mind that those of us who lease only pay a fraction of the premium that a package like this adds to the sale price. Assuming this car has a residual of around 64% on a 36 month, 12K mile per year lease, the lessee only pays $360 for each $1,000 added to the price. Just some food for thought... My 3 Series lease is up this time next year and I'm targeting an E82 lease, so this extra model is worth considering given my situation.
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