New Suspension Review ST Coilovers VS. H&R Sport + Koni Yellows VS. H&R Sport + OEM - BMW 1 Series Coupe Forum / 1 Series Convertible Forum (1M / tii / 135i / 128i / Coupe / Cabrio / Hatchback) (BMW E82 E88 128i 130i 135i)

1013mm · 12-24-2010, 02:43 PM

Hey guys, back with some new mods for my car, although it's not too visually noticeable, it's still worth reading. I don't do too many long posts without photos, but since this a review of some great products for out car, it will have to do so bear with me here

Also don't ask me all the technical aspects of the suspension I ran, cause I don't even know what spring rates are or do.

I got all my suspension work done and parts from longtran@ltbmw feel free to contact him! Great guy and service!

ST Coilovers
I don't have any photos of the suspension itself or how to car looks now (crazy rain in Socal

), but I will try to explain it. ST Coilovers are from the same company as KW's they are EXACTLY like the KW V1's but in a nutshell they don't have a lifetime warranty and is cheaper. The height is adjustable, but not the dampening. The ride is smoother than even my previous H&R Sport + Koni Yellow Shocks. Even though I can't adjust the dampening it was better than the Koni's on medium setting. I loved the racked look that the H&R Sport springs had, but the gap in the back made me want to go lower, but not H&R Race low. I find that the ST Coilovers is the perfect blend of looks and ride. I went lower in the back and left the front. I can pass through the bumps that I had trouble with in the past without my worrying too much about the suspension not being able to compensate. I'm just wondering to myself, why didn't I know about this before?!

H&R Sport + Koni Yellow Shocks

With the addition of Koni Yellows, I was more confident when I was passing bumps on roads without having to worry about bottoming out. My Koni's were set on Medium setting the whole time and I never changed it. In retrospect the fronts were ok, but the back need some tightening up since it would be too bouncy back there without some weight. The ride was overall bearable for a 2 hour drive. I would think I would have gotten sick of it if I was going on a 4 hour drive or more. The springs are actually pretty harsh for a long drive.

H&R Sport + OEM Shocks

When I first decided to get a drop I was being cheap. I read that the springs would ride fine with the OEM shocks. Man, was I wrong

The ride was only good and bearable on smooth local roads, if you live in Miami, you should have no problem, but if you commute in Los Angeles, you will hate every bit of it. There was no rebound from the OEM shocks since they weren't made for those springs and I would bottom out due to the slightest bump on the road. The look was good, but the drive was horrible, especially on bumpier roads. I quickly got Koni Yellows after a month.

OEM Non-Sport + OEM Shocks

When I first got the car I thought to myself, man! this car is low and looks great. Of course it was not until I got a drop that I was actually low. I felt that BMW had dumbed down the suspension. Coming from a E90 3-Series, I thought the handling would be better especially since the car was smaller and sportier. There was too much body roll for me and it was a bit floaty. This set up is really made for comfort IMO. When I think back, this is the setup to stay with if you like hassle-free suspension and comfort on long journeys or on bumpy roads. I would still angle into dips and driveways, but not much, never bottomed out.

I got all my suspension work done and parts from longtran@ltbmw feel free to contact him! Great guy and service!

Rodzilla · 12-24-2010, 06:21 PM

Nice! I checked the website and he has great prices on installs. Congrats.

My135 · 12-25-2010, 02:59 PM

How does it (ST) compare to stock in terms of firmness, like 35% more firm? Since I am going to replace my tires with non-run-flat, I would like the suspension to be more firm. Please let me know. Also, please PM me where you bought it from and the price too. Thanks.

1013mm · 12-25-2010, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by My135

How does it (ST) compare to stock in terms of firmness, like 35% more firm? Since I am going to replace my tires with non-run-flat, I would like the suspension to be more firm. Please let me know. Also, please PM me where you bought it from and the price too. Thanks.

Thanks guys.

I can't really put a percentage on the firmness but it is way firmer that stock also since it's lower and I have 19s makes the car feel mote planted and cornering is easy now. St is the choice it is also bearable since it compensates well.

As I said in my post I got it from longtran@ltbmw feel free to give him a pm or email!

cwg · 12-27-2010, 12:49 AM

Really nice looking ride - love the windmill shot

1013mm · 12-27-2010, 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rodzilla

Nice! I checked the website and he has great prices on installs. Congrats.

Yep he does!

Quote:

Originally Posted by cwg

Really nice looking ride - love the windmill shot

Thanks

1-2MANY · 12-27-2010, 11:41 AM

I saw that on **********s they have ST coilovers for the e92. Are those the same ones that would fit our cars?

BerkTechnology · 12-27-2010, 11:43 AM

Crazy shots as usual. How the eff do you get them to look like that? Your car looks like it's blue chrome. All post processing?

1013mm · 12-27-2010, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1-2MANY

I saw that on **********s they have ST coilovers for the e92. Are those the same ones that would fit our cars?

No they are different part numbers I would not risk it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BerkTechnology

Crazy shots as usual. How the eff do you get them to look like that? Your car looks like it's blue chrome. All post processing?

Thanks

Post processing helps but lighting does too

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxnix

So you had to angle into driveways with OEM non-sport springs and OEM shocks?

That's weird!

You dont want to be in LA

Mrbig · 03-26-2011, 04:38 PM

whats the best deal koni yellow hr springs ?

driftdriven · 03-26-2011, 11:12 PM

Pics yet?

e90sexion · 03-27-2011, 01:02 AM

How would you compare lowest height on ST coilover to H&R sport in the front?

1013mm · 03-29-2011, 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrbig

whats the best deal koni yellow hr springs ?

medium was alright for me. 50-75% firm is good. Not sure about you though... every person is different.

Quote:

Originally Posted by driftdriven

Pics yet?

It's been here in my build thread for a while... http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=388997

Quote:

Originally Posted by e90sexion

How would you compare lowest height on ST coilover to H&R sport in the front?

3/4" lower than sport in the front.

HPFREAK · 04-04-2011, 05:10 PM

I tried calling LT for fender rolling but no one answers not even a vm.

myfly335 · 07-10-2012, 10:59 PM

[quote=jzhang;8558731]Hey guys, back with some new mods for my car, although it's not too visually noticeable, it's still worth reading. I don't do too many long posts without photos, but since this a review of some great products for out car, it will have to do so bear with me here

Also don't ask me all the technical aspects of the suspension I ran, cause I don't even know what spring rates are or do.

Do you have a pic of the st on your car?

12-24-2010, 02:43 PM	#1
1013mm aka 1013MM Drives: pokingly flush Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Los Angeles / HK Posts: 9,231 iTrader: (7) Garage List 2009 135i [4.13]	New Suspension Review ST Coilovers VS. H&R Sport + Koni Yellows VS. H&R Sport + OEM Hey guys, back with some new mods for my car, although it's not too visually noticeable, it's still worth reading. I don't do too many long posts without photos, but since this a review of some great products for out car, it will have to do so bear with me here Also don't ask me all the technical aspects of the suspension I ran, cause I don't even know what spring rates are or do. I got all my suspension work done and parts from longtran@ltbmw feel free to contact him! Great guy and service! ST Coilovers I don't have any photos of the suspension itself or how to car looks now (crazy rain in Socal ), but I will try to explain it. ST Coilovers are from the same company as KW's they are EXACTLY like the KW V1's but in a nutshell they don't have a lifetime warranty and is cheaper. The height is adjustable, but not the dampening. The ride is smoother than even my previous H&R Sport + Koni Yellow Shocks. Even though I can't adjust the dampening it was better than the Koni's on medium setting. I loved the racked look that the H&R Sport springs had, but the gap in the back made me want to go lower, but not H&R Race low. I find that the ST Coilovers is the perfect blend of looks and ride. I went lower in the back and left the front. I can pass through the bumps that I had trouble with in the past without my worrying too much about the suspension not being able to compensate. I'm just wondering to myself, why didn't I know about this before?! H&R Sport + Koni Yellow Shocks With the addition of Koni Yellows, I was more confident when I was passing bumps on roads without having to worry about bottoming out. My Koni's were set on Medium setting the whole time and I never changed it. In retrospect the fronts were ok, but the back need some tightening up since it would be too bouncy back there without some weight. The ride was overall bearable for a 2 hour drive. I would think I would have gotten sick of it if I was going on a 4 hour drive or more. The springs are actually pretty harsh for a long drive. H&R Sport + OEM Shocks When I first decided to get a drop I was being cheap. I read that the springs would ride fine with the OEM shocks. Man, was I wrong The ride was only good and bearable on smooth local roads, if you live in Miami, you should have no problem, but if you commute in Los Angeles, you will hate every bit of it. There was no rebound from the OEM shocks since they weren't made for those springs and I would bottom out due to the slightest bump on the road. The look was good, but the drive was horrible, especially on bumpier roads. I quickly got Koni Yellows after a month. OEM Non-Sport + OEM Shocks When I first got the car I thought to myself, man! this car is low and looks great. Of course it was not until I got a drop that I was actually low. I felt that BMW had dumbed down the suspension. Coming from a E90 3-Series, I thought the handling would be better especially since the car was smaller and sportier. There was too much body roll for me and it was a bit floaty. This set up is really made for comfort IMO. When I think back, this is the setup to stay with if you like hassle-free suspension and comfort on long journeys or on bumpy roads. I would still angle into dips and driveways, but not much, never bottomed out. I got all my suspension work done and parts from longtran@ltbmw feel free to contact him! Great guy and service! __________________ -John Project YOSHI Sale Thread
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12-24-2010, 06:21 PM	#2
Rodzilla First Lieutenant Drives: 2008 Montego Blue 135i Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 394 iTrader: (4) Garage List 2008 BMW 135i [0.00]	Nice! I checked the website and he has great prices on installs. Congrats. __________________ There are no impossible deeds, only incapable men. Eibach frontsway,BMS JB4,AFE Drop InBerk Street Axleback, H&R SPORT SPRINGS,Active Autowerke DP's ,Active Autowerke BOV,Active Autowerke FMIC , BMWPEDALS.COM, JB SPEED Black Grills,Alpina B3 TCU Flash

12-25-2010, 02:59 PM	#3
My135 Lieutenant Colonel Drives: Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,599 iTrader: (0)	How does it (ST) compare to stock in terms of firmness, like 35% more firm? Since I am going to replace my tires with non-run-flat, I would like the suspension to be more firm. Please let me know. Also, please PM me where you bought it from and the price too. Thanks. __________________ 7/08 135 Coupe, Crimson Red, 6 SP, Sport, Taupe Lette/Aluminum. Performance Mods: JB4 on Map 5, BMS DP Fix V3, Injen polished intake, AR Catless DP, Maddad resonated mid-pipes, aFe exhaust polished tips, ST Suspension Coil Over and Hotchkis front sway bar. Others: BMS OCC, BT Scanner, Mud Flap. Next Mods: AA Front Strut Brace.

03-27-2011, 01:02 AM	#12
e90sexion E 9 0 S E X I O N Drives: like old times Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Vancouver/WA Posts: 5,361 iTrader: (16)	How would you compare lowest height on ST coilover to H&R sport in the front? __________________ KW \| VOLK TE37SL \| RECARO \| BMW PE

07-10-2012, 10:59 PM	#15
myfly335 Lieutenant Drives: 2011 e90 sport pkg ALL BLACK Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Hicksville, New York Posts: 482 iTrader: (3) Garage List 2011 BMW 335 [0.00]	[quote=jzhang;8558731]Hey guys, back with some new mods for my car, although it's not too visually noticeable, it's still worth reading. I don't do too many long posts without photos, but since this a review of some great products for out car, it will have to do so bear with me here Also don't ask me all the technical aspects of the suspension I ran, cause I don't even know what spring rates are or do. Do you have a pic of the st on your car? __________________ 2011 E90 (sport pkg) JB4 G5 ISO ,Alpina B3 TCU Flash, BMS INTAKE, BMS DOWNPIPES, ER CHARGE PIPE,EIBACH SWAY BARS FRONT AND REAR.......5%tint in rears 15% in fronts

12-27-2010, 12:49 AM	#5
cwg Lieutenant Drives: 2011 135i PPK1, PS, PE Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kailua, HI Posts: 598 iTrader: (0)	Really nice looking ride - love the windmill shot

12-27-2010, 11:41 AM	#7
1-2MANY First Lieutenant Drives: BSM 135i & 350Z Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Austin/Plano TX Posts: 377 iTrader: (3)	I saw that on **********s they have ST coilovers for the e92. Are those the same ones that would fit our cars?

12-27-2010, 11:43 AM	#8
BerkTechnology Lieutenant Colonel Drives: Fast Join Date: May 2008 Location: Irvine, CA Posts: 1,566 iTrader: (1)	Crazy shots as usual. How the eff do you get them to look like that? Your car looks like it's blue chrome. All post processing?

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Mrbig Captain Drives: 13 335is Join Date: May 2007 Location: N.Y.C Posts: 603 iTrader: (0)	whats the best deal koni yellow hr springs ?

03-26-2011, 11:12 PM	#11
driftdriven Captain Drives: BMW 135i Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 875 iTrader: (0)	Pics yet?

04-04-2011, 05:10 PM	#14
HPFREAK Lieutenant Colonel Drives: 09 135 CPE Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Socal Posts: 1,835 iTrader: (8)	I tried calling LT for fender rolling but no one answers not even a vm.

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