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drumdude1978 · 07-23-2012, 04:41 PM

Hi guys, need everyone's opinion in regards to the ecu upgrade. According to feedback, it's an easy plug in and drive.
I need some expertise advice if it's worth the money. Also, is anything else needed after the upgrade in addition to the dyno, just to be certain of the power upgrade?

Specs:
Adds 60 hp and 66lbs of torque.
Link:
http://www.bavauto.com/shop.asp

Amnizu · 07-23-2012, 05:29 PM

Holy sticker shock!

Check out the Cobb AP with a custom tune here.

I'm not saying they haven't done it, but, 60 WHP on just a tune and pump gas seems to me to be a little far fetched considering what the other tuners are doing. You might ask for some dyno graphs from the tuner.

Dan Parker · 07-23-2012, 06:59 PM

Those claims are insanely high. If it does make that kind of power I wouldn't expect much longevity from the engine. Just my .02.

drumdude1978 · 07-23-2012, 08:04 PM

I agree about the longevity of the engine. But , lets say hypothetically, the car wont be used at the track but for weekend driving. The power would "only" be used in certain occasions at the highway or to blow by punk racers. That shouldn't take a toll on the engine in the long term, will it?

Dan Parker · 07-23-2012, 08:24 PM

I wouldn't touch it with a 10 ft pole. 1M's are seeing around 325-330 rwhp stock and 350-360 rwhp tuned. This one would theoretically be getting 30-40 more hp then the others. Whether it's a weekend warrior, daily driver, or a track car it's pushing things too far in my opinion.

Since you are in Hollywood why don't you get in contact with Randy @ Epic MotorSports in Miami? He's someone that I highly recommend. http://www.epicmotorsports.com

drumdude1978 · 07-23-2012, 09:23 PM

Thanks Dan for the advice. I will contact them

sparoz · 07-23-2012, 09:33 PM

There was an article comparing German tuners and Kelleners was one of them. They have been around for a while.

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showt...=603372&page=2

-cj- · 07-23-2012, 10:07 PM

They might be talking crank HP and we're all talking whp...

///M1 · 07-23-2012, 11:09 PM

On a 135i, 60HP gain possible, on the 1M, if we are talking whp, from a tune only, unlikely. As others have said, sounds very aggressive (either their claims, or the stress on the engine as a result of such if indeed true)

Hogiebear · 07-24-2012, 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -cj-

They might be talking crank HP and we're all talking whp...

I agree...

sparoz · 07-24-2012, 06:22 AM

If you check out kellener's website, they are claiming 60hp with just a tune.

07-23-2012, 04:41 PM	#1
drumdude1978 New Member Drives: 2011 BMW 1 Series M (VO) Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Hollywood, Fl Posts: 14 iTrader: (0)	Kelleners Sport module upgrade Hi guys, need everyone's opinion in regards to the ecu upgrade. According to feedback, it's an easy plug in and drive. I need some expertise advice if it's worth the money. Also, is anything else needed after the upgrade in addition to the dyno, just to be certain of the power upgrade? Specs: Adds 60 hp and 66lbs of torque. Link: http://www.bavauto.com/shop.asp
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07-23-2012, 06:59 PM	#3
Dan Parker Major Drives: 2012 Golf R Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,365 iTrader: (0)	Those claims are insanely high. If it does make that kind of power I wouldn't expect much longevity from the engine. Just my .02. __________________ Dan Parker

07-23-2012, 08:24 PM	#5
Dan Parker Major Drives: 2012 Golf R Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,365 iTrader: (0)	I wouldn't touch it with a 10 ft pole. 1M's are seeing around 325-330 rwhp stock and 350-360 rwhp tuned. This one would theoretically be getting 30-40 more hp then the others. Whether it's a weekend warrior, daily driver, or a track car it's pushing things too far in my opinion. Since you are in Hollywood why don't you get in contact with Randy @ Epic MotorSports in Miami? He's someone that I highly recommend. http://www.epicmotorsports.com __________________ Dan Parker

07-23-2012, 09:33 PM	#7
sparoz Brigadier General Drives: VO 1///M; AW X3 30d Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Sunshine Coast Posts: 4,524 iTrader: (0)	There was an article comparing German tuners and Kelleners was one of them. They have been around for a while. http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showt...=603372&page=2 __________________ 1///M - Valencia Orange X3 30d - Alpine White Under Six Seconds http://www.under6s.com Last edited by sparoz; 07-23-2012 at 09:51 PM.

07-23-2012, 11:09 PM	#9
///M1 Brigadier General Drives: Many Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: 212/305 Posts: 3,080 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 BMW 1///M [0.00] 2008 Audi RS4 [0.00] 2000 BMW E39 M5 (sold) [0.00] 2008 BMW 135i (sold) [0.00]	On a 135i, 60HP gain possible, on the 1M, if we are talking whp, from a tune only, unlikely. As others have said, sounds very aggressive (either their claims, or the stress on the engine as a result of such if indeed true) __________________ *2011 BMW E82 1///M: AW, ZPP, ZCV, HK, Sirius, Apps; Akra CF+Valve control, MadDad mids, K&N, Forge FMIC, P3gauge, EuroTails, Tint, CF Mirrors+Spoiler+Roof Wrap, 10mm H&Rs, IND grills+gills, xCDV, LUX AE 2008 Audi B7 RS 4*: Sprint Blue, Exclusive Euro Recaro Interior, Premium+Titanium Package, EPL Tune, Stasis Ohlins MS coilovers, Milltek valved exhaust+DownPipes, Stoptech SS lines, Tint, ADR V1, Lidatek, Lamin-X, Rotiform SNA 19x10" wheels, 275/30/19 PSSs, Euro flat-bottom steering wheel, JHM SSK

07-23-2012, 05:29 PM	#2
Amnizu Second Lieutenant Drives: 502 of 740 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Seattle Posts: 225 iTrader: (0)	Holy sticker shock! Check out the Cobb AP with a custom tune here. I'm not saying they haven't done it, but, 60 WHP on just a tune and pump gas seems to me to be a little far fetched considering what the other tuners are doing. You might ask for some dyno graphs from the tuner.

07-23-2012, 08:04 PM	#4
drumdude1978 New Member Drives: 2011 BMW 1 Series M (VO) Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Hollywood, Fl Posts: 14 iTrader: (0)	I agree about the longevity of the engine. But , lets say hypothetically, the car wont be used at the track but for weekend driving. The power would "only" be used in certain occasions at the highway or to blow by punk racers. That shouldn't take a toll on the engine in the long term, will it?

07-23-2012, 09:23 PM	#6
drumdude1978 New Member Drives: 2011 BMW 1 Series M (VO) Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Hollywood, Fl Posts: 14 iTrader: (0)	Thanks Dan for the advice. I will contact them

07-23-2012, 10:07 PM	#8
-cj- Second Lieutenant Drives: 2011 AW 1M \| 2009 Red M3 DCT Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Toronto Posts: 267 iTrader: (1)	They might be talking crank HP and we're all talking whp...

07-24-2012, 06:22 AM	#11
sparoz Brigadier General Drives: VO 1///M; AW X3 30d Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Sunshine Coast Posts: 4,524 iTrader: (0)	If you check out kellener's website, they are claiming 60hp with just a tune. __________________ 1///M - Valencia Orange X3 30d - Alpine White Under Six Seconds http://www.under6s.com

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