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      07-28-2012, 10:46 PM   #1
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Coilovers and apex wheels

I have a 2008 135 and already have the Apex wheels. I am considering getting ST coilovers. Anyone have trouble with rubbing on the inside of the tire using coilovers?
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I have a 2008 135 and already have the Apex wheels. I am considering getting ST coilovers. Anyone have trouble with rubbing on the inside of the tire using coilovers?
What size APEX wheels ? I tried to mount some APEX wheels (from UDUBbadger) that I wanted to buy and the ST coilovers (springs) were too wide. Spacers would not work. I ended up buying BMW Performance 269s.

I couldn't find the original part out but I believe they were 18's 8.5 front with 235s.
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I have 8.5 in the front with 235/40/18 tires. You are saying the springs hit and not the adjusters? How low did you have the coilovers? I was worried about the adjustment rings.
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      07-29-2012, 07:32 PM   #4
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Shine in Harold. I need some info.
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I have HPAutowerks Koni/swift coilovers and apex arc8s 18x8.5" et45 with 225/40/18s star specs on the front. I have my coilovers adjusted so the top of the tire is flush with the bottom of the fender. There was about 1mm of clearance between the coil adjusting screw and the sidewall of the tire. I'm currently running 235 star specs with a 10mm spacer. If I could do it all over again, I'd get the arc8 18x8.5 et38s, for the front. I'm also running with 2.4* or negative camber from M3 control arms and Dinan camber plates. Hope this helps
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My Apex wheels did rub slightly on my ASTs, I ended up grinding part of the shock, not the tube, and it was fine. Decided to run wider tires and had move to a 5mm spacer (255/3518).
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      07-29-2012, 10:02 PM   #7
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Wow this is not sounding good. Please chime in if you have some info.
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      07-29-2012, 10:52 PM   #8
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I have coilovers and Apex wheels, and was able to lower the front a bit, but needed 5mm spacers to go lower.
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Wow this is not sounding good. Please chime in if you have some info.
Took a mm or two off. Doesn't compromise the shock tube at all. You can expect to need at least a 3mm spacer w the ARCs and OEM wheels if you run ASTs, maybe get away a 2mm..my car is fairly low btw.
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Wow this is not sounding good. Please chime in if you have some info.
Took a mm or two off. Doesn't compromise the shock tube at all. You can expect to need at least a 3mm spacer w the ARCs and OEM wheels if you run ASTs, maybe get away a 2mm..my car is fairly low btw.
Why not just purchase wheels that fit instead of expecting to use spacers?
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Why not just purchase wheels that fit instead of expecting to use spacers?
options are limited. ARCs fit great, better then most, but not 100% when you run aftermarket suspension. I prefer to run a wider tire up front as opposed to pizza cutters
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I just installed st coils with Vmr vb3. I'm running 235/265 tires and I'm rubbing pretty bad in the back on the highest setting
gonna go back for fender rolling and possibly negative camber
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... On the other hand, the ride on the st. Coils is so much better than stock
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What's the difference between coilovers and oem style spring? Is it that the spring comes down on the shock tube into the area where the tire is?

At the moment, I'm running Arc 8's 45 offset with 255/35 wheels and have never had an issue with yellow koni's and OEM style springs.
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I just installed st coils with Vmr vb3. I'm running 235/265 tires and I'm rubbing pretty bad in the back on the highest setting
gonna go back for fender rolling and possibly negative camber
Are you rubbing on the inside or outside? Fender rolling will help, the rears are difficult to roll if you DIY. Fronts are much easier.
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What's the difference between coilovers and oem style spring? Is it that the spring comes down on the shock tube into the area where the tire is?

At the moment, I'm running Arc 8's 45 offset with 255/35 wheels and have never had an issue with yellow koni's and OEM style springs.
The shock tube is typically wider with coilovers but the linear spring is more narrow. You can see that if you adjust them to a lower setting the tire has a chance to rub on the spring perch

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The shock tube is typically wider with coilovers but the linear spring is more narrow. You can see that if you adjust them to a lower setting the tire has a chance to rub on the spring perch

Noted. I actually got a response from Harold at HPA today citing that with 7" springs, the spring perch remains above the tire and you will have less rubbing issues, but with an 8" spring, you're near guaranteed to have the spring and/or spring perch inline with the tire.

The apex wheels (+45) left me about 2-3mm to the strut tube on Koni's so with coilovers, you'd have to add a spacer.

Spacer = (spring outer diameter - strut tube outer diameter)/2.

I'm considering Ohlin's right now and will try to get actual numbers soon unless anyone has direct experience with the setup (they use 8" springs).
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Wouldn't adding a spacer cause you to rub on the fender?
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Wouldn't adding a spacer cause you to rub on the fender?
Yes, however I'm running the ER widebody kit and have over an inch to spare depending on camber.
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Yes, however I'm running the ER widebody kit and have over an inch to spare depending on camber.
Oh, well then you have nothing to worry about. lol
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Wouldn't adding a spacer cause you to rub on the fender?
Yes, however I'm running the ER widebody kit and have over an inch to spare depending on camber.
Wait, I just noticed that the er body kit is only for the front. What do you do about the rear?
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Wait, I just noticed that the er body kit is only for the front. What do you do about the rear?
Rear isn't a coilover, that's only in the front. The back has a separate shock tube and spring, so it's very similar in size to the OEM setup.
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