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      08-22-2012, 03:22 PM   #67
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It was a toss up between that and the Ferrari 250 on my list. The 300 SL and SLR are timeless classics.
Indeed they are, hence why I somewhat struggle to put cars on that list, because at the end of the day it is about having the ability to enjoy them. Cars with such stature are dream collectables where every additional mile (and exposure to the open road) will hurt their value, one of the downsides of owning a special (and expensive) classic car - most of the time you only get to watch it from afar!

Was looking at Mecum auctions on TV, and in fact went to the Barrett Jackson in Palm Beach, was sad to see some cars that were bought back 40 or so yrs ago with the thought/intent that they would become classics (and hence fetch a high price), only for that never to materialize. There were 1970s Caddys (mostly convertibles) and a plethora of various 'special' edition Mustangs with well under 100 miles on the odometer, but in most cases those cars didn't even return their sticker price adjusted for inflation. Kinda sad that the owner all these yrs put less than 3 miles per yr on the car, never enjoyed it, dreaming for that 'big day', but were rudely awakened to a monetized loss. Add insult to injury!

So moral of the story is: drive those 1Ms, don't relegate them to garage queen status in the hopes that maaaaaybe a coulpe of decades from now, they will be worth something a lot more than they are today
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It was a toss up between that and the Ferrari 250 on my list. The 300 SL and SLR are timeless classics.
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Indeed they are, hence why I somewhat struggle to put cars on that list, because at the end of the day it is about having the ability to enjoy them. Cars with such stature are dream collectables where every additional mile (and exposure to the open road) will hurt their value, one of the downsides of owning a special (and expensive) classic car - most of the time you only get to watch it from afar!
Was looking at Mecum auctions on TV, and in fact went to the Barrett Jackson in Palm Beach, was sad to see some cars that were bought back 40 or so yrs ago with the thought/intent that they would become classics (and hence fetch a high price), only for that never to materialize. There were 1970s Caddys (mostly convertibles) and a plethora of various 'special' edition Mustangs with well under 100 miles on the odometer, but in most cases those cars didn't even return their sticker price adjusted for inflation. Kinda sad that the owner all these yrs put less than 3 miles per yr on the car, never enjoyed it, dreaming for that 'big day', but were rudely awakened to a monetized loss. Add insult to injury!
So moral of the story is: drive those 1Ms, don't relegate them to garage queen status in the hopes that maaaaaybe a coulpe of decades from now, they will be worth something a lot more than they are today
This owner owner does justice to his Mercedes-Benz 300SL Gullwing by driving it regularly. He explains why he does it. IMHO the right spirit.

And about that car: timeless, sheer elegance, of course.

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This owner owner does justice to his Mercedes-Benz 300SL Gullwing by driving it regularly. He explains why he does it. IMHO the right spirit.

And about that car: timeless, sheer elegance, of course.

That's my real hero! Kuddos to him, think about how much happier he is to drive it and enjoy it daily (even with the occasional rock chip or windshield crack per his admittance), than to see it pushed once a yr with white gloves and hear it sputter
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Indeed they are, hence why I somewhat struggle to put cars on that list, because at the end of the day it is about having the ability to enjoy them. Cars with such stature are dream collectables where every additional mile (and exposure to the open road) will hurt their value, one of the downsides of owning a special (and expensive) classic car - most of the time you only get to watch it from afar!

Was looking at Mecum auctions on TV, and in fact went to the Barrett Jackson in Palm Beach, was sad to see some cars that were bought back 40 or so yrs ago with the thought/intent that they would become classics (and hence fetch a high price), only for that never to materialize. There were 1970s Caddys (mostly convertibles) and a plethora of various 'special' edition Mustangs with well under 100 miles on the odometer, but in most cases those cars didn't even return their sticker price adjusted for inflation. Kinda sad that the owner all these yrs put less than 3 miles per yr on the car, never enjoyed it, dreaming for that 'big day', but were rudely awakened to a monetized loss. Add insult to injury!

So moral of the story is: drive those 1Ms, don't relegate them to garage queen status in the hopes that maaaaaybe a coulpe of decades from now, they will be worth something a lot more than they are today
I feel the same way. I could never own a car that sat mostly unused as my own personal museum piece. Cars like these are meant to be driven no matter how valuable they are, or potentially could be.


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This owner does justice to his Mercedes-Benz 300SL Gullwing by driving it regularly. He explains why he does it. IMHO the right spirit.

And about that car: timeless, sheer elegance, of course.
Great video! Without a doubt, the right spirit. That owner is a true enthusiast.
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This owner owner does justice to his Mercedes-Benz 300SL Gullwing by driving it regularly. He explains why he does it. IMHO the right spirit.
Great video!

Along the same lines, one of my dreams is to attend the Goodwood Revival. Check out some of these videos--elite pro drivers with some of the best cars ever.

https://www.youtube.com/user/AMFForu...query=goodwood

I love this line from the commentary at 3:20 in the video below (Whitsun Trophy race for 1960s Sports Prototypes). To me this sums up the spirit of the Goodwood Revival:

"The car in second place is the rare Canadian Chinook-Chevrolet, built in Toronto by the Fejer brothers. They only built two of these Mk2 Chinooks and they're both in this race."



I'm still working on my list of five...
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Here are four more in addition to the 1M I think are worthy of consideration that I don't think have been mentioned yet...

1. E46 M3 Touring (BMW M did a concept, but the car never made it to production. I'm giving serious consideration to building one in the not-too-distant future. If I'm going to do it, I'm going the CSL route, except manual transmission - so E46 M3 CSL Touring)





2. Lancia Delta Integrale (not sure if I'd want the production road car for homologation or the Group A rally car -- decisions, decisions)





3. BMW 507 (saw this at the BMW Museum during our European Delivery trip and instantly fell in love)



4. BMW E30 Touring (sorry, another wagon/hatchback )




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5. BMW 2002 Turbo
The video below was posted earlier, but remains a nice testimony of enthusiasm (and elegantly pictured). For those who had not seen it yet: (http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=562993)

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^cool

many people around here used to have 2002tii s

one guy even has a 2002 turbo like new /white with stripes and turbo decals and a e30M3 sport evolution

so for my list:

1M bsm (if i could only have one car i cant think of an alternative)
E46M3CSL silbergrau
E30M3sport evolution black
mercedes G 65 AMG (need something for the winter - and since money is no option why no V12? )
ferrari 599GTO grey with black wheels (never been a ferrari fan but well...)
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Along the same lines, one of my dreams is to attend the Goodwood Revival.
I go every year and I can say, you won't be disappointed with the Revival Meet if you ever do make it over..... it's a fabulous event.
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1. McLaren F1 (Orange)
2. Porsche GT3 RS 4.0 (White)
3. Ferrari 599 GTO (Red)
4. Zonda R (Carbon Fiber)
5. E46 M3 CSL (Alpine White)
Just a note: E46 M3 CSL, which is my all time favourite M car together with the 1M, was available only in grey and black. Of course if you are not talking about the CSL pack that was available in US too but that is not the same thing.
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Just a note: E46 M3 CSL, which is my all time favourite M car together with the 1M, was available only in grey and black. Of course if you are not talking about the CSL pack that was available in US too but that is not the same thing.
For an idea of how an E46 M3 CSL looks in AW (badly wrapped and maintained, according to the detailer). Wrap foil was removed by a skilled Belgian detailer (Wax-It): back to black.
Pictures of the wrap removal process: http://www.flickr.com/photos/wax-it/...31183854/show/
Comments (in Flemish): http://www.bimmerboard.be/forum/index.php?topic=27281.0

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Just a note: E46 M3 CSL, which is my all time favourite M car together with the 1M, was available only in grey and black. Of course if you are not talking about the CSL pack that was available in US too but that is not the same thing.
You are correct sir!

I will go grey then...
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For an idea of how an E46 M3 CSL looks in AW (badly wrapped and maintained, according to the detailer). Wrap foil was removed by a skilled Belgian detailer (Wax-It): back to black.
What a fantastic looking car! Although the E92 GTS is a fantastic car, I saw a couple when I was in Germany ripping around the Nürburgring, there was a lot of fan graffiti extolling the virtues of the E30 and E46.

I just wonder if the E92 has the soul to have a legacy similar to the E30 and E46? I looks like, similar to the 98 993 was the last air of the cooled Porsches, looks like the E92 will be the last of the naturally aspirated M3s.

I did not realize that my GoPro camera may have picked up the new M3 outside Munich in November 2011. Take a look, I have attached it, it looks like it has quad exhaust tips.

Will be interesting...
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Not changing my list quite yet but rather upgrading one of my choices. The SLS Black! I would pass on the yellow color but otherwise this car is wicked!

-"6.2-liter V8 raising the output to 622 hp, 8000RPM!"
-"At 3,417 pounds, the SLS AMG Black Series has dropped a total of 154 pounds compared to the SLS AMG GT."

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In no particular order, this is what I would have in my 5car garage if I had the money:
-Ferrari California
-Porsche Panamera Turbo S
-MB SLS 'gullwing'
-Porsche Carrera GT
-BMW X5M

I know some will be puzzled by some of my choices but I got 2 small boys so I had to throw in a few cars I can enjoy with my entire family. IMO the Panamera is the best 4 door sedan, it is capable of things a 4 should not be, very roomy as well. The X5M is the closest I can stomach to getting and SUV/SAV. The California is a 4-seater exotic, is a hard top convertible, most beatiful Ferrari design in many years IMO(best of all worlds). The GT is a no brainer and the SLS I can't explain, I just like the way the car looks(even the original 1955 SLS).

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Not changing my list quite yet but rather upgrading one of my choices. The SLS Black! I would pass on the yellow color but otherwise this car is wicked!
Hold your (upgrade) horses for something even more impressive, Metak: what about the Über SLS: "Mercedes SLS AMG GT3 45th Anniversary" ? Only 5 copies, €450,000.00 each (US$577,474.00).

Oh, and the last pic is especially for you, Metak.

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Great lists! Most are somewhat similar, 3-4 supercars then a track car and a daily driver (usually a BMW). Many also stick a muscle car on there. Saw tons of unique cars like a Porsche914, etc.

For me it would really come down to what kind of money I had at the time. If I were really loaded I'd pick cars including a daily driver to match. Since I doubt I'll ever be that loaded I just don't know if I'd be that comfortable aggressively driving a $500k car.

My current garage is kind of weird and needs work:
1. FBO/modded 135 daily driver
2. 1994 Porsche 968 Cab part-time driver (original owner, 168k, needs paint, etc)
3. 1989 Toyota 4Runner (modded) (original owner, 145k, why paint it..lol)
4. 1977 Mercedes 450SEL 6.9 (had it since 1994, 68k, AMG cosmetic mods)
5. 1962 Mercedes 190SL, rusted out, took apart to restore in 1995

I should sell both my Mercedes first. 968's are great track cars but mine is a cabriolet so I'd really just as soon restore this one better and buy some other non-cabriolet for a track car.

Cars I have always loved that wouldn't be too hard to afford:
1. Acura NSX
2. BMW 850
3. mid 90's Porsche, would especially love a turbo and then mod it for more HP
4. Toyota Supra

If I were substantially better off financially I'd like to add:
1. Porsche Carrera GT or a Ford GT
2. Audi R8 or the new NSX if I had a little less money
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These lists are so stupid...okay I'll play anyway.

No particular order:
-Bugatti Veyron SS (of course)
-Aston Martin DB-S
-BMW E92 M3
-Mercedes Benz CLK 63 AMG Black Series.
-Peterbilt 379 flattop, 18 speed/600 caterpillar.
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