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tracer bullet · 04-29-2012, 06:59 PM

Just curious how many people with angel eye mods have ended up having a problem afterwards, vs. how many made mods and didn't have a problem. Also curious how many people have had headlight problems but never messed with their headlights to start with?

Don't be shy or embarrased, I was as careful as I thought I could be w/ my angel eye installation and I still got water in there. Luckily I caught it before anything happened. I cast the first vote as having an issue, after my install. A minor & easily fixed issue, but an issue nevertheless.

Please be honest! Should be interesting.

1er coupe · 04-30-2012, 06:00 AM

I've done a full OEM BMW xenon retrofit with 6000K HID angel eyes. No problems.

RaihaX · 04-30-2012, 06:27 AM

had alpine HID angel eyes for almost a year and no problem - I sold it now though.

1speedbike · 04-30-2012, 11:20 AM

I have alpine HIDs and one of my adaptive headlight motors failed. The failure was completely unrelated to the HID kit, but it's a nightmare trying to get BMW to replace it because they still blame the aftermarket kit. Pain in the ass. Headlights still work, they just don't swivel side to side any more. I have only gotten condensation ONCE and that was with an old set of headlights before I got mine fully replaced after an accident. That was only because I knowingly left the cap open overnight and expected everything to be fine.

tracer bullet · 05-02-2012, 10:05 AM

Funny, not a huge sample size at 21 so far, but no one's had a headlight issue who hasn't opened it up and modded something.

Modding doesn't guarantee a problem, but so far all problems are w/ lights that have been modded.

Mark Attack! · 05-02-2012, 01:31 PM

Purchased the BMS 4 LED kit (looked great) about two days after the install the angel eyes would blink several times after start up & my driver side light completely went out as well as the adaptive headlight stopped working. NOT saying this is due to BMS product itself. But I strongly recommend using double sided tape to secure the ballast. Anyway, I reinstalled the stock bulb, took it back to the dealer and they replaced the motor and and fixed the headlight no problem.

I really want to reinstall the angel eyes but im not sure if I need to get a replacement set of the LED's. I've read through some other threads, and it doesn't seem like many people have the blinking error at start up.

Riley1524 · 05-02-2012, 02:18 PM

Installed many, many different kits and not a single problem...You really have to take your time and be careful. I think a lot of the guys that have problems are being a little careless and not doing the install correctly, but who knows?

1thirtyfizzo · 09-29-2012, 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Attack!

Purchased the BMS 4 LED kit (looked great) about two days after the install the angel eyes would blink several times after start up & my driver side light completely went out as well as the adaptive headlight stopped working. NOT saying this is due to BMS product itself. But I strongly recommend using double sided tape to secure the ballast. Anyway, I reinstalled the stock bulb, took it back to the dealer and they replaced the motor and and fixed the headlight no problem.

I really want to reinstall the angel eyes but im not sure if I need to get a replacement set of the LED's. I've read through some other threads, and it doesn't seem like many people have the blinking error at start up.

I also had the BMS 4 LED on my 135i. They do look great day n night but i just started having the same problem w/ the adaptive headlight. Im planning replace to stockers back and take her to the dealer next week.

MysticblueX3 · 09-30-2012, 01:43 AM

I have HID kit installed. Only problem was a burnt out bulb. A easy enough fix. I think you just have to be careful not to have anything interfere with the adaptive headlight motor and getting the cap to go on properly.

iNAN3 SOLDi3R · 09-30-2012, 02:00 AM

I have an Alpine MSS kit in mine with adaptive headlights. Install was cake, used a dremel tool to shave done the cover properly, no worries about condensation yet.... but winter is approaching here in Germany. I did have the drivers side go out on me once. It happened to be the day after a long trip to the Nurburgring where I think a connection came loose. I just popped the hood and played with the wires until it came back on. No problems since!

Section147 · 09-30-2012, 02:48 PM

I have the LUX 5ks installed. I immediately had an adaptive motor warning after I put them in,
but that's because I didn't have the ballasts mounted properly. Went back in, did the velcro and
no problems since.

PapaB · 10-01-2012, 10:02 PM

Installed Lux angel eyes and broke one clip that keeps everything watertight. Got caught in rain before i could get to the dealer, $2400 and a new light later I have some great looking angel eyes.

P7X · 10-01-2012, 10:28 PM

I have the BMS kit and it looks great but after a week I had the adaptive warning come on for both lights. Tried a couple different spots but resulted in the warning. Moved the ballasts outside the housing (not waterproof) and no issues but couldn't leave it like that. Running upgraded bulbs but not nearly as nice looking as the BMS kit. Just not worth the warning / wear on the motors / potential water getting in.

Any one found a proper way to install the BMS kit with no issues?

MGallop · 10-04-2012, 03:16 PM

Ive gone throw a few of BMS 4 led... Got tired of swapping so now im back to stock

Wescuddles · 10-04-2012, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P7X

I have the BMS kit and it looks great but after a week I had the adaptive warning come on for both lights. Tried a couple different spots but resulted in the warning. Moved the ballasts outside the housing (not waterproof) and no issues but couldn't leave it like that. Running upgraded bulbs but not nearly as nice looking as the BMS kit. Just not worth the warning / wear on the motors / potential water getting in.

Any one found a proper way to install the BMS kit with no issues?

Installed as stated on bms website and had both headlights fail. Wonder why I'm selling the bms 4 led kit? It's garbage. Looks like shit too.

Dosturbos · 10-06-2012, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wescuddles

Installed as stated on bms website and had both headlights fail. Wonder why I'm selling the bms 4 led kit? It's garbage. Looks like shit too.

I won't be buying the BMS LED's, now that I am hearing all this. Thanks for the heads up. sounds like it is more trouble than it's worth.

fs454 · 10-07-2012, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dosturbos

I won't be buying the BMS LED's, now that I am hearing all this. Thanks for the heads up. sounds like it is more trouble than it's worth.

Really is more trouble than they're worth. I had adaptive light failures and condensation no matter what I did, and I'm not terrible at this stuff.

The first person to make a fairly inexpensive AE kit that fits easily in the housings could make a killing. Or a kit that includes modified housings.

The cheap chinese ballasts just didn't feel up to par at all to me. And they're now round, ensuring you'll never be able to double-stick tape them down or place them anywhere in the housings.

Eddie135 · 10-07-2012, 06:18 PM

Lux V3 will be your solution

Though a little expensive well worth the $ spent, had them for 12 months and no issue.

PapaB · 10-07-2012, 08:20 PM

I agree with Eddie. They are a bit pricy but you get what you pay for. I have been running them in my 135 and X6 for some time now with no issues.

T-Dubbs · 12-04-2012, 07:34 PM

pain in the ass!
i don't wanna go under the hood of my car in the winter
but i need both headlights to work

tracer bullet · 12-04-2012, 11:16 PM

It's not a huge sample size, but given the limited data I see 2 things: 1) You have a 50/50 chance of causing a problem when swapping out the angel eyes, and 2) If you have a problem it's a pretty safe bet (24 to 4) you caused it.

I think the issue is not so much knowing what to do, but getting one of the kit parts in a place that the housing won't go back together correctly. It may seem like it's down, you may think you know what to look for, the metal clips might go back in place - but it doesn't mean it's actually sealed.

Wescuddles · 12-05-2012, 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tracer bullet

It's not a huge sample size, but given the limited data I see 2 things: 1) You have a 50/50 chance of causing a problem when swapping out the angel eyes, and 2) If you have a problem it's a pretty safe bet (24 to 4) you caused it.

I think the issue is not so much knowing what to do, but getting one of the kit parts in a place that the housing won't go back together correctly. It may seem like it's down, you may think you know what to look for, the metal clips might go back in place - but it doesn't mean it's actually sealed.

Exactly. I asked my service guy to install a set for me and he said he wouldn't because BMW advises against opening the covers on e82 headlights because they are such a bitch to get back on and sealed properly. Apparently BMW technicians even have a 50-50 chance of getting it right - its just the way their built, to stay sealed permanently.

View Poll Results: Have you had any headlight problems and have you made any modifications to them?
HAVE had a headlight problem (motor or bulb out) - No modifications	4	3.64%
HAVE had a headlight problem (motor or bulb out) - I did make modifications	33	30.00%
Have NOT had a headlight problem (motor or bulb out) - No modifications	38	34.55%
Have NOT had a headlight problem (motor or bulb out) - I did make modifications	35	31.82%
Voters: 110. You may not vote on this poll

04-29-2012, 06:59 PM	#1
tracer bullet Captain Drives: '11 135i - AW w/ TC Join Date: May 2011 Location: Saint Paul, MN Posts: 613 iTrader: (1)	Angel Eye Mods vs. Headlight Problems Just curious how many people with angel eye mods have ended up having a problem afterwards, vs. how many made mods and didn't have a problem. Also curious how many people have had headlight problems but never messed with their headlights to start with? Don't be shy or embarrased, I was as careful as I thought I could be w/ my angel eye installation and I still got water in there. Luckily I caught it before anything happened. I cast the first vote as having an issue, after my install. A minor & easily fixed issue, but an issue nevertheless. Please be honest! Should be interesting.
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04-30-2012, 11:20 AM	#4
1speedbike Colonel Drives: 2008 BMW 135i Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NJ, NYC, Baltimore Posts: 2,916 iTrader: (14)	I have alpine HIDs and one of my adaptive headlight motors failed. The failure was completely unrelated to the HID kit, but it's a nightmare trying to get BMW to replace it because they still blame the aftermarket kit. Pain in the ass. Headlights still work, they just don't swivel side to side any more. I have only gotten condensation ONCE and that was with an old set of headlights before I got mine fully replaced after an accident. That was only because I knowingly left the cap open overnight and expected everything to be fine. __________________ Year 1 of the 1

05-02-2012, 02:18 PM	#7
Riley1524 Lieutenant Drives: A Slow Ass BMW Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Atlanta, Ga. Posts: 493 iTrader: (4)	Installed many, many different kits and not a single problem...You really have to take your time and be careful. I think a lot of the guys that have problems are being a little careless and not doing the install correctly, but who knows? __________________ 2009 128i Sport Package, 6 speed, Heated Leather, Factory Adaptive H.I.D Headlights. MODS: VMR 18" Vb3's Matte Black, Eibach Pro-Kit, BMW Performance Brakes, BMW SSK, CDV delete, Morimoto 4500k D1s Bulbs, 3000k DDM HID Fogs, icarbon Dry Carbon Rear Deck Lid Spoiler, Carbon Fiber Mirror Caps, Custom Painted Grills, Injen intake, Custom Berk Race Exhaust. Escort Redline RD, Laser Intercepter Laser Jammers....Much More To Come

09-30-2012, 02:48 PM	#11
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04-30-2012, 06:00 AM	#2
1er coupe New Member Drives: 1 Series Coupe Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: England Posts: 22 iTrader: (0)	I've done a full OEM BMW xenon retrofit with 6000K HID angel eyes. No problems.

04-30-2012, 06:27 AM	#3
RaihaX Major General Drives: 08' 135i Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Australia, Perth Posts: 5,030 iTrader: (2)	had alpine HID angel eyes for almost a year and no problem - I sold it now though.

05-02-2012, 10:05 AM	#5
tracer bullet Captain Drives: '11 135i - AW w/ TC Join Date: May 2011 Location: Saint Paul, MN Posts: 613 iTrader: (1)	Funny, not a huge sample size at 21 so far, but no one's had a headlight issue who hasn't opened it up and modded something. Modding doesn't guarantee a problem, but so far all problems are w/ lights that have been modded.

05-02-2012, 01:31 PM	#6
Mark Attack! Private Drives: 2009 135i Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 51 iTrader: (0)	Purchased the BMS 4 LED kit (looked great) about two days after the install the angel eyes would blink several times after start up & my driver side light completely went out as well as the adaptive headlight stopped working. NOT saying this is due to BMS product itself. But I strongly recommend using double sided tape to secure the ballast. Anyway, I reinstalled the stock bulb, took it back to the dealer and they replaced the motor and and fixed the headlight no problem. I really want to reinstall the angel eyes but im not sure if I need to get a replacement set of the LED's. I've read through some other threads, and it doesn't seem like many people have the blinking error at start up.

09-30-2012, 01:43 AM	#9
MysticblueX3 Private First Class Drives: 135i Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 137 iTrader: (0)	I have HID kit installed. Only problem was a burnt out bulb. A easy enough fix. I think you just have to be careful not to have anything interfere with the adaptive headlight motor and getting the cap to go on properly.

09-30-2012, 02:00 AM	#10
iNAN3 SOLDi3R Private First Class Drives: 2011 135i LMB DCT Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Afghanistan Posts: 196 iTrader: (0)	I have an Alpine MSS kit in mine with adaptive headlights. Install was cake, used a dremel tool to shave done the cover properly, no worries about condensation yet.... but winter is approaching here in Germany. I did have the drivers side go out on me once. It happened to be the day after a long trip to the Nurburgring where I think a connection came loose. I just popped the hood and played with the wires until it came back on. No problems since!

10-01-2012, 10:02 PM	#12
PapaB Private Drives: '10 135i,'07 MCoupe,'09 X6 5.0 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Murfreesboro, TN Posts: 63 iTrader: (0)	Installed Lux angel eyes and broke one clip that keeps everything watertight. Got caught in rain before i could get to the dealer, $2400 and a new light later I have some great looking angel eyes.

10-01-2012, 10:28 PM	#13
P7X Second Lieutenant Drives: E82 BMW 135i AW Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ottawa Posts: 235 iTrader: (0)	I have the BMS kit and it looks great but after a week I had the adaptive warning come on for both lights. Tried a couple different spots but resulted in the warning. Moved the ballasts outside the housing (not waterproof) and no issues but couldn't leave it like that. Running upgraded bulbs but not nearly as nice looking as the BMS kit. Just not worth the warning / wear on the motors / potential water getting in. Any one found a proper way to install the BMS kit with no issues? __________________

10-04-2012, 03:16 PM	#14
MGallop Captain Drives: 12' 135i Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: San Jose, Ca Posts: 815 iTrader: (1) Garage List 2012 BMW 135i [0.00]	Ive gone throw a few of BMS 4 led... Got tired of swapping so now im back to stock __________________ Matthew Gallop: '12 N55 Mods: JB4 Flex ISO \| iCarbon DP \| VRSF 5" FMIC \| BMS Intake \| ER Charge Pipe \| Race Axleback \| ST Coils \| Alufelgen CS7's \| iCarbon 3 fin Diffuser \| CarbonFiber Spoiler \| BMS AE's \| 30% tint \| red+blk roundels \| Cyba Scoops \| H-Style front Lip \| WeissLicht LED Smoked Sidemarkers \| Matte Grills \| Coded \|

10-07-2012, 06:18 PM	#18
Eddie135 N55 Commando Drives: 135i - DCT - N55 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Melbourne Posts: 626 iTrader: (0)	Lux V3 will be your solution Though a little expensive well worth the $ spent, had them for 12 months and no issue. __________________ PPK-Stage 2 \| BMW 313 Wheels \| BMW CF Spoiler \| BMW CF Mirror Caps \| BMW Y-Pipe \| BMW CF Diffuser \| Black LCI Tailights \| K&N Drop-In \| iCarbon CF Front Lip \| LUX V3 \| PIVOT-Raizin Voltage Stabilizer \|

10-07-2012, 08:20 PM	#19
PapaB Private Drives: '10 135i,'07 MCoupe,'09 X6 5.0 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Murfreesboro, TN Posts: 63 iTrader: (0)	I agree with Eddie. They are a bit pricy but you get what you pay for. I have been running them in my 135 and X6 for some time now with no issues.

12-04-2012, 07:34 PM	#20
T-Dubbs Private First Class Drives: '08 135i Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Calgary,AB/Palm Springs CA Posts: 142 iTrader: (1)	pain in the ass! i don't wanna go under the hood of my car in the winter but i need both headlights to work __________________ JB4/KW V2/Bmw Performance exhaust/Mr.5 Intake/VRSF Downpipes

12-04-2012, 11:16 PM	#21
tracer bullet Captain Drives: '11 135i - AW w/ TC Join Date: May 2011 Location: Saint Paul, MN Posts: 613 iTrader: (1)	It's not a huge sample size, but given the limited data I see 2 things: 1) You have a 50/50 chance of causing a problem when swapping out the angel eyes, and 2) If you have a problem it's a pretty safe bet (24 to 4) you caused it. I think the issue is not so much knowing what to do, but getting one of the kit parts in a place that the housing won't go back together correctly. It may seem like it's down, you may think you know what to look for, the metal clips might go back in place - but it doesn't mean it's actually sealed.

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