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flinchy · 10-21-2012, 03:00 AM

It seems that it's an extremely limited selection so far

At the moment i've found

Brembo 6pot 355mm - $3600
Stoptech 6pot 355mm - $3200
AP racing 6Pot 355mm - $3100

they're pretty much all the ['big name' brands and realistically, they're all pretty much identically priced

then there's the general taiwanese brands (ksport/xyz) at about $2k for the same setup

then Nashin (supposedly better than ksport etc.) for $1800ish but you get no choice in rotor or pad...

anything else anyone can add to this list

I'd like a proper BBK under $3,000, partly for the thought of it more than actual price (even $2,999 haha), but i want some free choice in at least my pads if i find i want less dust/more brake force/higher temp/price etc.

thanks

cooler2442 · 10-21-2012, 03:09 AM

If MSRP on the stoptech is $3200 you can most likely get it for under 3k then. But shipping to Australia would be pretty big.

BMW86 · 10-21-2012, 03:26 AM

Which vendors are selling the AP Racing BBK? I could not find anyone selling it.

I'm thinking about pulling the trigger on a BBK shortly.

BMW86 · 10-21-2012, 03:32 AM

Also the Stoptech come in 2 versions, there is a base spec and the Trophy spec.

Haven't looked into the Trophy too much but it weighs a lot less and costs a lot more.

flinchy · 10-21-2012, 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BMW86

Also the Stoptech come in 2 versions, there is a base spec and the Trophy spec.

Haven't looked into the Trophy too much but it weighs a lot less and costs a lot more.

$750 more yep

Barely lighter

Mostly cosmetic (very pretty)

Cheapest i've found for stoptech on google is about $3200 (2k GBP ish from the UK)

I'll post links to ap racing soon, you can find it for 'e92 335i' more easiy (all bolts on the same)

It's just brake pad and rotor time for me so may as well go big (considering how pricey OE replacement stuff is!

Shipping from just about anywhere i think would be $2xx or so?

BMW86 · 10-21-2012, 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by flinchy

$750 more yep

Barely lighter

Mostly cosmetic (very pretty)

Cheapest i've found for stoptech on google is about $3200 (2k GBP ish from the UK)

I'll post links to ap racing soon, you can find it for 'e92 335i' more easiy (all bolts on the same)

It's just brake pad and rotor time for me so may as well go big (considering how pricey OE replacement stuff is!

Shipping from just about anywhere i think would be $2xx or so?

I was quoted $752.15 to ship the Stoptech BBK...

Waiting to hear back if they can better it.

flinchy · 10-21-2012, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BMW86

Quote:

Originally Posted by flinchy

$750 more yep

Barely lighter

Mostly cosmetic (very pretty)

Cheapest i've found for stoptech on google is about $3200 (2k GBP ish from the UK)

I'll post links to ap racing soon, you can find it for 'e92 335i' more easiy (all bolts on the same)

It's just brake pad and rotor time for me so may as well go big (considering how pricey OE replacement stuff is!

Shipping from just about anywhere i think would be $2xx or so?

I was quoted $752.15 to ship the Stoptech BBK...

Waiting to hear back if they can better it.

WHAT?

No freakin way

You can get a set of coilovers for a couple hundred$ an they wouldn't weigh literally half as much. And be physically smaller.

The package for a set f brakes is pretty small at least?

BMW86 · 10-21-2012, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by flinchy

WHAT?

No freakin way

You can get a set of coilovers for a couple hundred$ an they wouldn't weigh literally half as much. And be physically smaller.

The package for a set f brakes is pretty small at least?

I was told front BBK comes in 2 boxes. I played around with a shipping calculator on shipito.com and it works out more expensive if you add the boxes together in volume/weight, whereas if you ship them separately it would be much cheaper. Have received cheaper quotes for shipping BBK elsewhere though, this is by far the most expensive.

flinchy · 10-21-2012, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BMW86

I was told front BBK comes in 2 boxes. I played around with a shipping calculator on shipito.com and it works out more expensive if you add the boxes together in volume/weight, whereas if you ship them separately it would be much cheaper. Have received cheaper quotes for shipping BBK elsewhere though, this is by far the most expensive.

what dimension are the boxes?

it's about 25lb/corner isn't it for the whole setup?.. 30lb?

BMW86 · 10-21-2012, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by flinchy

what dimension are the boxes?

it's about 25lb/corner isn't it for the whole setup?.. 30lb?

I have been told 15x15x15 40lbs each.

flinchy · 10-21-2012, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BMW86

I have been told 15x15x15 40lbs each.

15 inches cube? ok that's a pretty big cube lol

,... well aus post to america quotes $200 for 20kg by sea mail, so this is now sounding reasonable

but still, that's $400 for both parcels (or less) private.. most big companies get 30-50% discounds with bulk freight, so i'd push for sub $300 for the front kit!

sharkatron · 10-21-2012, 05:53 AM

Reminder re import duties - going to cost close to 4k when you factor in shipping and duties

BMW86 · 10-21-2012, 06:28 AM

Just hope I'm not getting stung on the shipping charges. I know some companies inflate shipping charges to make a few extra $$$.

flinchy · 10-21-2012, 06:35 AM

Double

flinchy · 10-21-2012, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by sharkatron

Reminder re import duties - going to cost close to 4k when you factor in shipping and duties

Yeah.. 20% odd

So say i can find a kit for $3k, $300 in shipping and.. Yeah $3960 pretty easily..

The thought of this is saddening.. But do it once to it right. >_<

And if you wanted it domestically, you'd bet on $6k at a minimum

GeeRam · 10-21-2012, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BMW86

Which vendors are selling the AP Racing BBK? I could not find anyone selling it.

Birds Tuning here in the UK sells a custom AP Racing BBK for the 1 Series.

UK retail price is £2125 which probably includes our VAT at 20%, so you can likely take 20% of that price before adding shipping out to Aus + your import taxes etc.,etc.

See here http://www.birdsauto.com/sites/www.b...8734870500.pdf

uberschnell · 10-21-2012, 03:58 PM

Don't go for the cheap BBK. If you can't afford one of the three you mentioned then you are better off upgrading your stock set up. I've run rotora and Brembo and the Brembo's are a night and day difference.

Get the rotora's / ksport if you are into poor pad selection and pulsating brakes.

flinchy · 10-21-2012, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MteK

Don't go for the cheap BBK. If you can't afford one of the three you mentioned then you are better off upgrading your stock set up. I've run rotora and Brembo and the Brembo's are a night and day difference.

Get the rotora's / ksport if you are into poor pad selection and pulsating brakes.

Poor pad selection? They take any hawk/ferodo etc. that's the only thing that appeals to me

Pulsating brakes? That's something that didn't come up on google

sharkatron · 10-21-2012, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MteK

Don't go for the cheap BBK. If you can't afford one of the three you mentioned then you are better off upgrading your stock set up. I've run rotora and Brembo and the Brembo's are a night and day difference.

Get the rotora's / ksport if you are into poor pad selection and pulsating brakes.

Isn't the rotora's the one on the Berk 135i car? With all the track time that car gets, I'm sure there is some evidence to suggest that they are ok, right?

uberschnell · 10-21-2012, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by sharkatron

Isn't the rotora's the one on the Berk 135i car? With all the track time that car gets, I'm sure there is some evidence to suggest that they are ok, right?

I don't know. Maybe the fact that they dumped the Rotora's for Performance Friction BBK's back in 2010 tells you something?

flinchy · 10-21-2012, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by sharkatron

Quote:

Originally Posted by MteK

Don't go for the cheap BBK. If you can't afford one of the three you mentioned then you are better off upgrading your stock set up. I've run rotora and Brembo and the Brembo's are a night and day difference.

Get the rotora's / ksport if you are into poor pad selection and pulsating brakes.

Isn't the rotora's the one on the Berk 135i car? With all the track time that car gets, I'm sure there is some evidence to suggest that they are ok, right?

Yup, but they seem to have swapped out to.. Performance friction

Rotoras seem to be about $2700
Performance friction at 3500+ (4k even maybe?)? Idk they're hard to find, will search more later
Too high maint/complex for me, 1 pad per piston, 4 pot fronts (355mm) and apparently 371mm rear? I'm so confused as that would TRASH brake balance.

Well they chose rotora over stoptech and brembo (and oem)... Performance friction is also PRICED above all others..

uberschnell · 10-21-2012, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flinchy

Poor pad selection? They take any hawk/ferodo etc. that's the only thing that appeals to me

Pulsating brakes? That's something that didn't come up on google

You talking about Rotora? I ran them, I know what the selection is like and no they will not take any hawk or ferodo (FC-6), unless they've changed design in the last couple of years. Same is true for the rotor rings. I also know that they vibrate. Before I bought them a i was warned by a local tuner (Mach 5) that they are known to vibrate/pulsate. Sure enough 10K miles in and it happened to me.

Also, their poor (none existent) customer service is legendary.

You can do whatever you want, go cheap on BBK, it's your dime. But don't say you weren't warned.

10-21-2012, 03:00 AM	#1
flinchy Lieutenant Colonel Drives: 130i Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: QLD, Australia Posts: 1,837 iTrader: (0)	List of BBK's available for 1ers? It seems that it's an extremely limited selection so far At the moment i've found Brembo 6pot 355mm - $3600 Stoptech 6pot 355mm - $3200 AP racing 6Pot 355mm - $3100 they're pretty much all the ['big name' brands and realistically, they're all pretty much identically priced then there's the general taiwanese brands (ksport/xyz) at about $2k for the same setup then Nashin (supposedly better than ksport etc.) for $1800ish but you get no choice in rotor or pad... anything else anyone can add to this list I'd like a proper BBK under $3,000, partly for the thought of it more than actual price (even $2,999 haha), but i want some free choice in at least my pads if i find i want less dust/more brake force/higher temp/price etc. thanks
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10-21-2012, 03:09 AM	#2
cooler2442 Brigadier General Drives: '11 135 Sport DCT Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: The Valley, Los Angeles Posts: 3,228 iTrader: (5)	If MSRP on the stoptech is $3200 you can most likely get it for under 3k then. But shipping to Australia would be pretty big. __________________

10-21-2012, 03:26 AM	#3
BMW86 Major General Drives: BMW 135i / Kawa Ninja Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 8,619 iTrader: (0)	Which vendors are selling the AP Racing BBK? I could not find anyone selling it. I'm thinking about pulling the trigger on a BBK shortly. __________________ BMW 135i N54 TWIN TURBO Quarter Mile 12.173@113.70mph - Street Tyres Queensland Raceway Sprint 1:01:22 - Street Tyres Queensland Raceway Clubman 1:04:74 - Street Tyres Lakeside Raceway 1:03:97 - Street Tyres

10-21-2012, 03:32 AM	#4
BMW86 Major General Drives: BMW 135i / Kawa Ninja Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 8,619 iTrader: (0)	Also the Stoptech come in 2 versions, there is a base spec and the Trophy spec. Haven't looked into the Trophy too much but it weighs a lot less and costs a lot more. __________________ BMW 135i N54 TWIN TURBO Quarter Mile 12.173@113.70mph - Street Tyres Queensland Raceway Sprint 1:01:22 - Street Tyres Queensland Raceway Clubman 1:04:74 - Street Tyres Lakeside Raceway 1:03:97 - Street Tyres

10-21-2012, 06:28 AM	#13
BMW86 Major General Drives: BMW 135i / Kawa Ninja Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 8,619 iTrader: (0)	Just hope I'm not getting stung on the shipping charges. I know some companies inflate shipping charges to make a few extra $$$. __________________ BMW 135i N54 TWIN TURBO Quarter Mile 12.173@113.70mph - Street Tyres Queensland Raceway Sprint 1:01:22 - Street Tyres Queensland Raceway Clubman 1:04:74 - Street Tyres Lakeside Raceway 1:03:97 - Street Tyres

10-21-2012, 05:53 AM	#12
sharkatron Second Lieutenant Drives: `09 135i Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Melbourne Posts: 275 iTrader: (0)	Reminder re import duties - going to cost close to 4k when you factor in shipping and duties

10-21-2012, 06:35 AM	#14
flinchy Lieutenant Colonel Drives: 130i Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: QLD, Australia Posts: 1,837 iTrader: (0)	Double

10-21-2012, 03:58 PM	#17
uberschnell Brigadier General Drives: // 135i //, X5 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bay Area Posts: 3,248 iTrader: (42)	Don't go for the cheap BBK. If you can't afford one of the three you mentioned then you are better off upgrading your stock set up. I've run rotora and Brembo and the Brembo's are a night and day difference. Get the rotora's / ksport if you are into poor pad selection and pulsating brakes.

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