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jhall1957 · 11-20-2012, 11:38 AM

I'll have one! Anyone else planning to leave well enough alone? I hope not cause mine will be worth a ton then!

631twentyeighteye · 11-20-2012, 11:43 AM

It's a car, I would rather have some fun with it rather then spend 60k and have it look pretty in my garage IMHO.

Stohlen · 11-20-2012, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by 631twentyeighteye

It's a car, I would rather have some fun with it rather then spend 60k and have it look pretty in my garage IMHO.

Ditto. You can always return it to stock and it will again be non-molested.

Chris ABP · 11-20-2012, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Stohlen

Ditto. You can always return it to stock and it will again be non-molested.

^ This.

Besides everything that I have done to mine (or ever will do) will be easily reversible as I have all the original parts. Anyone selling or disposing of the original parts might have a problem though!

ozinaldo · 11-20-2012, 12:19 PM

Mine will be there for sure (I mean hopefully), but I may keep it longer than that

Dee Pee · 11-20-2012, 12:59 PM

I've got a 10 year old unmolested S54 roadster in my garage and I'm hoping to have the 1M in similar condition as well. The only mods I have are the black front grills and Metak's starter ring. I'd like to investigate some Dinan upgrades once I get some time to put this thing on the track in the spring though.

jhall1957 · 11-20-2012, 04:01 PM

Dang, I didn't say garage queen, Guys! Mine was on track (Nurburgring) the day I picked it up and it's been on tracks (VIR and CMP) since. That plus 6,500 and several speeding tickets say "I'm no garage queen!". But, having seen several wrecked, and several pretty heavily modified, I think alot of these will go the route of E30 M3's with S52 motors. There is a big difference between enjoying a car and butchering one.

Every time I see one on track I kinda wonder how long it can last? I like running disposable cars on track. I think about the last E30 M3 I bought. It was never ever going to be a "money" car because of two replacement fenders.

Drive it, heck drive it hard. Lord knows I do. But it's a different thing to start changing things around.

Just my opinion. But please, if you wanna swap suspension and motors and turbos and intercooler and stuff, have fun! It will just make a stock car look that much better some day!

ADVANT123 · 11-20-2012, 04:35 PM

I plan to keep mine for a long time.. although if I have some good luck financially, I would considering trading her in for a 911 GT3RS....

bdaddylo · 11-20-2012, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jhall1957

But please, if you wanna swap suspension and motors and turbos and intercooler and stuff, have fun! It will just make a stock car look that much better some day!

Haven't seen anyone swap out their motors yet, but I'd be glad to pay a premium for a 1M with a S65 swap. Don't see how an aftermarket FMIC or coilovers would devalue a 1M. The stock FMIC is a piece of crap. Turbos don't last forever and maybe the first thing to mechanically fail on the N54 besides the HPFP. Not sure what you're trying to get at.

nachob · 11-20-2012, 05:20 PM

Mine will be one. I might swap wheels for a bit but plan to leave it unmolested. I'm actually in the market for wheels and thought about selling stock ones to get extra money for wheels, but I plan to keep them so it can be original at any point.

Mahlzeit · 11-20-2012, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ADVANT123

I plan to keep mine for a long time.. although if I have some good luck financially, I would considering trading her in for a 911 GT3RS....

win.

b33g33 · 11-20-2012, 05:30 PM

Time will tell. I have a few minor mods in mind.

I'll almost DD the 1M till I can justify getting a F30 M3 or a next gen Cayman so the 1M can 'retire' into weekend duty.

Amnizu · 11-20-2012, 05:50 PM

If I'm totally honest. I don't see this as an investment car at best you're looking at maybe getting MSPR back after mileage is deducted in 10 years if you're lucky. That is assuming it behaves similar to the way the e30 M3 has, which was 34k in 1988. Factor in TVM and the costs of maintenance and you're quickly upside down.

BMW did a great job advertising the car and creating a buzz around it with limited production. The also did a great job of using that buzz and artificial scarcity to hold a high MSRP on the car.

Maybe in 50 or 60 years the car will appreciate but IMHO you're gonna have to hold onto your 1M for a long time to really "profit" from it.

ESC OFF · 11-20-2012, 10:10 PM

I'm keeping the original air in my tires....

ZCP M3 · 11-20-2012, 10:11 PM

Will continue to daily drive mine, enjoy the hell out of it, and take great care of it. Maybe you can pry it out of my hands in 10 years.

ZCP M3 · 11-20-2012, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ESC OFF

I'm keeping the original air in my tires....

That German air is top-notch. Definitely keep that in for resale.

nachob · 11-20-2012, 10:43 PM

I actually bought a brand new set of ZCPs for autocrossing and they were slightly shinier than my current set. I decided to sell them and for a moment I considered putting the shiny new ones on my car but then I got sentimental and realized the ZCPs on their with German air kept me on the autobahn at 150 mph......I sold the nicer set and kept the originals.

this car is special and unless some economic crisis or physical crisis like not being able to drive manual, I'm keeping this thing unmolested.

danielbreese · 11-21-2012, 01:53 AM

I don't like where cars are going now. Yes I am a member of the "Flat Earth" society. I want only a manual tranny. I definitely don't want the sat/nav crap. I want utter old school simplicity in a car. A car you actually have to drive. I really think we will never have a car like the 1M again. The boat has set sail. I am fairly sure there never will be a car again I will desire more. I also own a 1967 Ferrari, and new ferraris don't interest me at all (no manual option).

My 1M is completely stripped. It has absolutely no mods. I will never sell. I will put about 10,000 miles a year on it. I have an E46 M3 for harsher use (snow, airports, running the kids around) to preserve the 1M. I plan on living 40 more years, so that will be 400,000 miles. With careful maintenance the 1M will make it.

Dan

Mini B · 11-21-2012, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ADVANT123

I plan to keep mine for a long time.. although if I have some good luck financially, I would considering trading her in for a 911 GT3RS....

Blasphemy!!!

ozinaldo · 11-21-2012, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ESC OFF

I'm keeping the original air in my tires....

Gave me a good morning laugh.

jhall1957 · 11-21-2012, 09:03 AM

I just love posts like this where it clearly shows two different mind sets.

I agree that this car my never be a money car. I also think that to get you time use of money out of it it will need to be 70 years old and a bubble car, but I do believe there is a beauty in keeping what BMW made as they made it. Once you start screwing around with it, it's easy to screw it up!

I saw a 1956 BMW the other day that BMW Zentum paid $1.2 mil for. It's special and nice but your stock 1M would make this car it's bitch! Not sure what the point is, but I like my 1M the way it is.

Stohlen · 11-21-2012, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by jhall1957

Just my opinion. But please, if you wanna swap suspension and motors and turbos and intercooler and stuff, have fun! It will just make a stock car look that much better some day!

Again, you can change all of those things back with no harm done to the car, and they will be just as valuable as any other stock M1 then.

11-20-2012, 11:38 AM	#1
jhall1957 Private First Class Drives: '11 X5d, '11 1M,Spec E30 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: WS,NC Posts: 152 iTrader: (1)	How many unmolested, one owner 1M will there be in 10 years? I'll have one! Anyone else planning to leave well enough alone? I hope not cause mine will be worth a ton then!
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11-20-2012, 11:43 AM	#2
631twentyeighteye Captain Drives: 2010 128i MT Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Long island Posts: 792 iTrader: (6)	It's a car, I would rather have some fun with it rather then spend 60k and have it look pretty in my garage IMHO. __________________ Injen intake, Custom 135i Active Autowerke exhaust fitted to 128 mids, blackline tails, Depo headlights w/ 8000k LED angel eyes and xenons, 8000k xenon fogs, Lowered on eibach springs, 264's in anthracite with a red lip wrapped in hankook v12's in 135i sizes.

11-20-2012, 12:19 PM	#5
ozinaldo Colonel Drives: 1M Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Chile, Santiago Posts: 2,062 iTrader: (0)	Mine will be there for sure (I mean hopefully), but I may keep it longer than that __________________ 2011 BMW 1M: Euro spec, w/out Nav, manual seats. Evolve Race+N55 mid, Michelin PSS, ER charge pipe, aFe ProDryS drop-in filter, CDVx, BMW-IND trunk spoiler matt cf/VO stripe, BMW blacklines, BMW black grills, IND side gills&rear M logo, silver turn indicator bulbs, anthrazit overlays on side creases and on air curtains, MPerformance steering wheel w/VO ring, BMW steel pedals, custom mats, color matched MPower e-brake.

11-20-2012, 04:35 PM	#8
ADVANT123 Second Lieutenant Drives: 1M Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: NJ Posts: 260 iTrader: (0)	I plan to keep mine for a long time.. although if I have some good luck financially, I would considering trading her in for a 911 GT3RS.... __________________ 2011 Valencia Orange 1M - Weekend Warrior 2013 Acura RDX - Daily

11-20-2012, 05:30 PM	#12
b33g33 Give '///M' Hell! Drives: Einser Rex Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 1,200 iTrader: (0)	Time will tell. I have a few minor mods in mind. I'll almost DD the 1M till I can justify getting a F30 M3 or a next gen Cayman so the 1M can 'retire' into weekend duty. __________________ The 1 series M is the most badass, coolest, sickest BMW to debut since the 1988 M3. The E30 M3 finally has a successor. Please welcome the stupidly fast, wickedly tempered, awkwardly named, possibly perfect little son of a benchmark - Automobile Magazine, August 2011

11-20-2012, 12:59 PM	#6
Dee Pee First Lieutenant Drives: '02 M Roadster, '11 AW 1M Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 351 iTrader: (0)	I've got a 10 year old unmolested S54 roadster in my garage and I'm hoping to have the 1M in similar condition as well. The only mods I have are the black front grills and Metak's starter ring. I'd like to investigate some Dinan upgrades once I get some time to put this thing on the track in the spring though.

11-20-2012, 04:01 PM	#7
jhall1957 Private First Class Drives: '11 X5d, '11 1M,Spec E30 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: WS,NC Posts: 152 iTrader: (1)	Dang, I didn't say garage queen, Guys! Mine was on track (Nurburgring) the day I picked it up and it's been on tracks (VIR and CMP) since. That plus 6,500 and several speeding tickets say "I'm no garage queen!". But, having seen several wrecked, and several pretty heavily modified, I think alot of these will go the route of E30 M3's with S52 motors. There is a big difference between enjoying a car and butchering one. Every time I see one on track I kinda wonder how long it can last? I like running disposable cars on track. I think about the last E30 M3 I bought. It was never ever going to be a "money" car because of two replacement fenders. Drive it, heck drive it hard. Lord knows I do. But it's a different thing to start changing things around. Just my opinion. But please, if you wanna swap suspension and motors and turbos and intercooler and stuff, have fun! It will just make a stock car look that much better some day!

11-20-2012, 05:20 PM	#10
nachob Major Drives: 2011 1M Coupe Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: California Posts: 1,042 iTrader: (3)	Mine will be one. I might swap wheels for a bit but plan to leave it unmolested. I'm actually in the market for wheels and thought about selling stock ones to get extra money for wheels, but I plan to keep them so it can be original at any point.

11-20-2012, 05:50 PM	#13
Amnizu Second Lieutenant Drives: 502 of 740 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Seattle Posts: 224 iTrader: (0)	If I'm totally honest. I don't see this as an investment car at best you're looking at maybe getting MSPR back after mileage is deducted in 10 years if you're lucky. That is assuming it behaves similar to the way the e30 M3 has, which was 34k in 1988. Factor in TVM and the costs of maintenance and you're quickly upside down. BMW did a great job advertising the car and creating a buzz around it with limited production. The also did a great job of using that buzz and artificial scarcity to hold a high MSRP on the car. Maybe in 50 or 60 years the car will appreciate but IMHO you're gonna have to hold onto your 1M for a long time to really "profit" from it.

11-20-2012, 10:10 PM	#14
ESC OFF Major Drives: 1M (AW) & CaymanS Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,012 iTrader: (0)	I'm keeping the original air in my tires.... __________________ The faster you go, the better it feels

11-20-2012, 10:11 PM	#15
ZCP M3 First Lieutenant Drives: 2011 VO 1M Coupe #759 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 384 iTrader: (0)	Will continue to daily drive mine, enjoy the hell out of it, and take great care of it. Maybe you can pry it out of my hands in 10 years.

11-20-2012, 10:43 PM	#17
nachob Major Drives: 2011 1M Coupe Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: California Posts: 1,042 iTrader: (3)	Crazy I actually bought a brand new set of ZCPs for autocrossing and they were slightly shinier than my current set. I decided to sell them and for a moment I considered putting the shiny new ones on my car but then I got sentimental and realized the ZCPs on their with German air kept me on the autobahn at 150 mph......I sold the nicer set and kept the originals. this car is special and unless some economic crisis or physical crisis like not being able to drive manual, I'm keeping this thing unmolested.

11-21-2012, 01:53 AM	#18
danielbreese Private First Class Drives: 11 1M, 02 M3, 67 Ferrari Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 156 iTrader: (0)	I don't like where cars are going now. Yes I am a member of the "Flat Earth" society. I want only a manual tranny. I definitely don't want the sat/nav crap. I want utter old school simplicity in a car. A car you actually have to drive. I really think we will never have a car like the 1M again. The boat has set sail. I am fairly sure there never will be a car again I will desire more. I also own a 1967 Ferrari, and new ferraris don't interest me at all (no manual option). My 1M is completely stripped. It has absolutely no mods. I will never sell. I will put about 10,000 miles a year on it. I have an E46 M3 for harsher use (snow, airports, running the kids around) to preserve the 1M. I plan on living 40 more years, so that will be 400,000 miles. With careful maintenance the 1M will make it. Dan

11-21-2012, 09:03 AM	#21
jhall1957 Private First Class Drives: '11 X5d, '11 1M,Spec E30 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: WS,NC Posts: 152 iTrader: (1)	I just love posts like this where it clearly shows two different mind sets. I agree that this car my never be a money car. I also think that to get you time use of money out of it it will need to be 70 years old and a bubble car, but I do believe there is a beauty in keeping what BMW made as they made it. Once you start screwing around with it, it's easy to screw it up! I saw a 1956 BMW the other day that BMW Zentum paid $1.2 mil for. It's special and nice but your stock 1M would make this car it's bitch! Not sure what the point is, but I like my 1M the way it is.

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