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      11-21-2012, 03:38 AM   #1
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Smile Evolve uk experience

Hi all I thought I would post a little bit on my experience with evolve, in my opinion they don't shout about what they can do enough.

I'm so impressed with there knowledge and care, no matter how much you pester them for more power they only do what they KNOW will be safe for your car!

My car has now been fully evolved with a full exhaust, intercooler and I'm on my 3rd spec remap now, they took my car back to standard software yesterday and did a base run, then loaded the there updated stage three file to test the gains etc. and oh man! What a car! It is so strong and so tractable the weather was crap yesterday but holy crap how fast does it feel!

So thanks again guys really appreciate it
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Good to know, all set for IOM then.So is your car now producing even more power than before? Any figures?
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Good to know, all set for IOM then.So is your car now producing even more power than before? Any figures?
Coma on Jana, you know you shouldn't be asking a women her stats

Nice Matt, even more time come IOM
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      11-21-2012, 05:39 AM   #4
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Good to hear Matt.....bring on IOM!

I've been very happy with my Evolve Stage 1 and following my hardware mods the car performs really well......as you know
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Matt,

I saw that you recently sold a set of PS2 tyres. Question is, what are you running now? Super Sports?
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h-manuk: How does the Evolve-R stage 1 tune (without the M button pressed) compare with the Stock 1M (with the M button pressed)?

Thanks

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h-manuk: How does the Evolve-R stage 1 tune (without the M button pressed) compare with the Stock 1M (with the M button pressed)?

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Sorry to chime in here; I am sure h-manuk will give his answer but why would you compare the affect of a tune with the M button? M button just changes the throttle response, gives you a sharper, quicker responding car. However, there are no hidden bonus power there. Similarly, a tune will not necessarily give you any better throttle response but definitely gives more power and torque. Moreover, M button remains functional with Evolve tune which means that you can always use it with or without the tune.
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h-manuk: How does the Evolve-R stage 1 tune (without the M button pressed) compare with the Stock 1M (with the M button pressed)?

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To be honest I can't remember as its been quite some time since I've had the tune. All I can say is that there was a small relative difference in throttle response to both stock and tuned if you compare like for like with the M button in either on or off modes.

I only enthuse about my Evolve stage 1 when in M mode!
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There seems to be a smoother power delivery with the M button pressed than without when we flashed my car back to stock it seemed really slow!
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Michelin supersports Chris
Power is improved jana 428 on evolve's dyno
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      11-21-2012, 01:08 PM   #11
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Coma on Jana, you know you shouldn't be asking a women her stats

Nice Matt, even more time come IOM
Yes mate it's not looking good!
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      11-21-2012, 03:29 PM   #12
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Very nice Matt! Looking forward to seeing and hearing it soon.
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Sorry to chime in here; I am sure h-manuk will give his answer but why would you compare the affect of a tune with the M button? M button just changes the throttle response, gives you a sharper, quicker responding car. However, there are no hidden bonus power there. Similarly, a tune will not necessarily give you any better throttle response but definitely gives more power and torque. Moreover, M button remains functional with Evolve tune which means that you can always use it with or without the tune.

Coz 'Stock (without M button pressed)' has the dreaded turbo lag and with the 'M pressed' hardly any.

So was just wondering if the Evolve tune (without M pressed) whether there's the same turbo lag.
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Coz 'Stock (without M button pressed)' has the dreaded turbo lag and with the 'M pressed' hardly any.

So was just wondering if the Evolve tune (without M pressed) whether there's the same turbo lag.
My car doesn't seem to suffer with turbo lag very much at all unless your in 6 @ 30mph in the right gear for the speed with or with out m button. The m button just seems to advance the revs and sharpen up the throttle.

If you think the 1M has lag try a Subaru!
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Matt, your car sounds superb! Especially with the new tune!

Few questions:

1.) Do you have any photos of your car? I'd like to see your seats

2.) How are the ds2500 pads? I'm looking to change mine but wasn't sure where to start.

Cheers
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Coz 'Stock (without M button pressed)' has the dreaded turbo lag and with the 'M pressed' hardly any.

So was just wondering if the Evolve tune (without M pressed) whether there's the same turbo lag.
When M button is not pressed with the evolve tune it is the same as stock. It is not turbo lag as such. The map makes the throttle come in less sharp - that of course will increase spooling time. If you want immediate response - press the M button.
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Coz 'Stock (without M button pressed)' has the dreaded turbo lag and with the 'M pressed' hardly any.

So was just wondering if the Evolve tune (without M pressed) whether there's the same turbo lag.
I wouldn't say that without the M-button on there is more lag, it is just that the throttle is less sensitive. The M-button does change the wastegate positions though.

Love my Evolve tune.. put it in about 3 months ago & it just rocks
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Hmm.. don't know about about you guys, but I sure can feel the turbo lag. Even Tiff mentions it on 5th gear.

Sure the lag is not like those on a WRX or basically small displacement engines using high pressure turbos... but its noticeable, mostly without the 'M button' pressed. And that's due to the waste-gate being open.
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Matt, your car sounds superb! Especially with the new tune!

Few questions:

2.) How are the ds2500 pads? I'm looking to change mine but wasn't sure where to start.

Cheers
Best jack it up and take the wheels off for a start
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Hmm.. don't know about about you guys, but I sure can feel the turbo lag. Even Tiff mentions it on 5th gear.

Sure the lag is not like those on a WRX or basically small displacement engines using high pressure turbos... but its noticeable, mostly without the 'M button' pressed. And that's due to the waste-gate being open.
This has been talked extensively recently, here is the thread "Lag or No Lag":

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showt...ight=turbo+lag

I also agree that there is small but noticeable lag especially with M button not pressed, but really not a big deal.

Summary of known cures to minimize it: catless downpipes (works for sure), high flow mid pipes (slight but noticeable gain with N55 or Maddad mids reported), better charge pipe (ER charge pipe is reported for good gains), better intake (arguable, differing experiences reported). Also, in combination with a good tune like Evolve's, a more performant intercooler with better piping should help as well; but for a stock car an intercooler may actually be counterproductive.
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Matt, your car sounds superb! Especially with the new tune!

Few questions:

1.) Do you have any photos of your car? I'd like to see your seats

2.) How are the ds2500 pads? I'm looking to change mine but wasn't sure where to start.

Cheers
DS2500 is definitely a good balance between fast road and a light track pad. They are relatively quiet compared to the optional M performance sport pads, DS3000, Pagid RS19s/29s and PFCs. The DS2500 have a similar feel to the stock pads i.e. slightly soft initial bite that increases with temperature. The M performance sport pads and RS19/29s bite hard from the get go and work well from cold but are too noisy for general road use, unless you live alone in the countryside or install anti-squeal shims. SS brakelines and different brake fluid are only necessary if you track it pretty hard and regularly, otherwise their benefits isn't so apparent over oem on the road. Ring taxis only upgrade their pads to the M performance ones and carry 3 passengers, so uprated pads for fast road use is more than sufficient.
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