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      12-14-2012, 12:16 PM   #45
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I tied a f430 on the autobahn, i was on map 7, just on my way home from the nurburgring. I was putting along in the right lane at 70sih mph, and he flew by and blew my doors off, i dropped a couple gears and gave chase. There was some slow traffic on the road, so we never got side by side for very long, but i was glued to his bumper the entire time, id say we hit 170 a few times before we had to brake for traffic.

Earlier that day on the ring, i passed a (different color) f430 in the turn before the second carousel (someone will chime in with the real name of the turn).

this isnt a win, but i raced my buddy in his ECS supercharged E92 M3, we were doing rolls from 50-60 to vmax, and he won every time (210 top speed to my 190) but i could pull a few cars at lower speeds until i hit about 160, he has the high end power to scream past me at those speeds. those races made me really want to get rb's.
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      12-14-2012, 12:18 PM   #46
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STis still have the crazy close ratio box. Still takes 3 to 60.


135 though, who thinks you need more than 1 shift?
to 60? no. i have a terrible memory, but i want to say i dont reach for third until almost 80? (stock gears and everything, so if im wrong let me know) I haven't driven my car in a while, she is on a boat to america right now.
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      12-14-2012, 12:22 PM   #47
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to 60? no. i have a terrible memory, but i want to say i dont reach for third until almost 80? (stock gears and everything, so if im wrong let me know) I haven't driven my car in a while, she is on a boat to america right now.
on the 135 or the Sti?

an STi takes 2 shifts to get to 60 (you have to be in third)
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      12-14-2012, 12:39 PM   #48
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on the 135 or the Sti?

an STi takes 2 shifts to get to 60 (you have to be in third)
He has a 135i, so I'm assuming he is talking about that. You gotta keep in mind that a manual transmission 135i/335i have longer gears than an auto, so it is very possible that it only takes 1 shift in his 135i compared to 2 in an auto 135/335i.
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He has a 135i, so I'm assuming he is talking about that. You gotta keep in mind that a manual transmission 135i/335i have longer gears than an auto, so it is very possible that it only takes 1 shift in his 135i compared to 2 in an auto 135/335i.

An auto 135 takes 1 shift to 60 - and I shift at about 80.
Ive driven both. A manual 135 has pretty similar shift points to the auto in my experience.


And he was responding to a comment about STis.
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      12-14-2012, 12:47 PM   #50
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on the 135 or the Sti?

an STi takes 2 shifts to get to 60 (you have to be in third)
i was talking about the 135, sorry. i misread.
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An auto 135 takes 1 shift to 60 - and I shift at about 80.
Ive driven both. A manual 135 has pretty similar shift points to the auto in my experience.


And he was responding to a comment about STis.
Not from my experience after driving both extensively. The manual equipped 135/335 most definitely have longer gears than the auto. I don't remember the exact ratios for each, but I do remember that the manual has a final drive of 3.06 while the auto has a final drive of 3.46.
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Not from my experience after driving both extensively. The manual equipped 135/335 most definitely have longer gears than the auto. I don't remember the exact ratios for each, but I do remember that the manual has a final drive of 3.06 while the auto has a final drive of 3.46.
yeah. Im not turning this into a manual vs auto thread...
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yeah. Im not turning this into a manual vs auto thread...
Why would it turn into a manual vs auto thread? Manuals have longer gears, period. http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...nmission+ratio
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Why would it turn into a manual vs auto thread? Manuals have longer gears, period. http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...nmission+ratio
Because lesser squabbles have been turned into manual vs auto threads...Its best to nip these things in the bud
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STis still have the crazy close ratio box. Still takes 3 to 60.


135 though, who thinks you need more than 1 shift?
If it took 3 shifts, you would be in fourth gear at 60. My old Spec B. didnt need to be in 4th gear to be at 60 mph.
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      12-14-2012, 02:49 PM   #57
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How do you think the 1er would do against a 370z bone stock?
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If it took 3 shifts, you would be in fourth gear at 60. My old Spec B. didnt need to be in 4th gear to be at 60 mph.
Yeah I noticed that. I meant you needed 3rd to hit 60.
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      12-14-2012, 03:29 PM   #59
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How do you think the 1er would do against a 370z bone stock?
A stock 135 vs a stock 70z might be neck and neck. I raced a 370z, which are rated at 332hp and took him by a car. I only have JB4, which proly puts me around 350hp...I don't think an 18hp difference would have allowed me to beat him by a full car length.

So I'm thinking stock 370 vs stock 135 = tie
Stock 70 vs JB4 = car length win for 135

But who knows, I may be wrong...
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How do you think the 1er would do against a 370z bone stock?
A stock 135 vs a stock 70z might be neck and neck. I raced a 370z, which are rated at 332hp and took him by a car. I only have JB4, which proly puts me around 350hp...I don't think an 18hp difference would have allowed me to beat him by a full car length.

So I'm thinking stock 370 vs stock 135 = tie
Stock 70 vs JB4 = car length win for 135

But who knows, I may be wrong...
Also depends on the altitude a lot, up here in Alberta VQ powered cars are a lot slower than down at sea level like most N/A vehicles.
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STis still have the crazy close ratio box. Still takes 3 to 60.


135 though, who thinks you need more than 1 shift?
Only one shift for sure, can almost make it without,,almost!!
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I haven't raced anyone in my auto, have only had it two days and Id like to keep this one longer than my last, but the two before my auto were manuals, the shift points are very similar but the manual is slightly longer in 1st for sure, the rest seem very close. My auto is faster than my manual tho, but it does have the performance pack, 20 more hp and 32 tq. But to add to the list, in my past two, many Camaros, mustangs, MS3, 335i, audis, a 370 but we didn't get a full run, kept up with a amg c500 but not for long if we had kept going, that's a damn fast car, so far that was the only clear loss and the manuals were all bone stock, no performance kits, I cant wait to see how the auto holds up, its def well below 5 in 0-60 BMW claims it shaves ..2 0-60 and .5 50-75 so Im assuming 1/4 mi around 1 second give or take a few tenths
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      12-15-2012, 12:03 AM   #63
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Sorry to be OT but doesn't the shorter gear ratio in the auto explain the faster acceleration? That's what upgrading diff to final drive ratio does right? So how does more shifts result in being faster than the car in the next lane? Unless shifting more does not necessarily equate to being slower...
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      12-15-2012, 12:10 AM   #64
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Here in NY most of the sport cars driven here under estimate my 135i and i always beat them I'm stock
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Just took a WRX from a 50 roll by like 7 cars...stopped when I reached 130....closed road of course O_o
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How do you think the 1er would do against a 370z bone stock?
A stock 135 vs a stock 70z might be neck and neck. I raced a 370z, which are rated at 332hp and took him by a car. I only have JB4, which proly puts me around 350hp...I don't think an 18hp difference would have allowed me to beat him by a full car length.

So I'm thinking stock 370 vs stock 135 = tie
Stock 70 vs JB4 = car length win for 135

But who knows, I may be wrong...
Interesting. My friend just bought a 370. He's been wanting to see which one of us is quicker.
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