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geared · 12-07-2012, 06:09 PM

Going on the dyno on Sunday....Not sure what type of dyno.

South Florida temps supposed to be 73-83

2012 1 with 5,500 miles
motor:
jb4 stg 2 map 5 93 octane, latest firmware (not iso though)
ar 4" nocts
cpe cp
bms intake

Any guesses?

jb

RnmEvo9 · 12-07-2012, 06:19 PM

DCT or 6MT?

If its a dynojet, I say you will make around 350whp/385wtq.

geared · 12-07-2012, 09:00 PM

6 speed.

Given this: http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=778675

I'd think more than what you suggest, no?

I know hes ISO + e85, but hes auto and intake/tune only.

but I have 6 speed, catless dp, and a charge pipe (i know doesnt amount to much)

that having been said "auto + ISO jb4 + e85 = +20rwhp/~+50rwtq > 4" dp, jb4, cpe cp, 6 spd and 93?

you may be right....

I will be switching to ISO and probably e85 soon, so this should be interesting.

b1aze · 12-07-2012, 09:26 PM

E85 has a huge effect on power production. Especially if he went with 50/50 e85

Pig Farmer · 12-10-2012, 08:04 AM

geared--How'd she do? Probably not the best day for a dyno. Humidity was off the charts. Almost felt like summertime. I suspect you have a 2-3% correction factor for the humidity alone.

http://wahiduddin.net/calc/calc_hp.htm

geared · 12-10-2012, 01:29 PM

whole setup was garbage....list was full before i got there (even tho I requested a spot well in advance).....

I will be getting on the dyno in a couple of days.

RnmEvo9 · 12-13-2012, 02:44 PM

Update?

geared · 12-13-2012, 03:00 PM

mustang dyno (a very ego-robbing one from what I was told/based on other numbers from other cars).....only put down 300/314....somewhat disappointing.

RnmEvo9 - I'd love to meet up, and let you drive my car....see if you think I have an issue.

Logs look good according to Terry.

135Pats · 12-13-2012, 04:20 PM

Dont be discouraged, its the delta that matters...dyno to dyno youll get vastly different results, ive seen dyno logs of stock n55s making as low as 230whp depending on the conditions. Depending on how many pulls you did id imagine the OE intercooler got totally heatsoaked as well.

alexmtl_135i · 12-13-2012, 06:34 PM

300 on a mustang dyno is actually pretty good, no?

geared · 12-13-2012, 07:26 PM

thanks....drag strip will tell the story

1speedbike · 12-13-2012, 08:22 PM

300 on a mustang is probably close 350 on a dynojet and ~400 horses at the crank. I'd say a pickup of 100 crank horses is pretty decent for a tune and downpipes on an N55. Did you do a baseline? That and the strip will give more details.

geared · 12-13-2012, 08:43 PM

NO BASE

1speedbike · 12-13-2012, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by geared

NO BASE

Ah, cool. Still, I don't think the numbers are anything to get disheartened over. Look forward to seeing a drag strip run

geared · 12-13-2012, 08:45 PM

definitely in the near future.

RnmEvo9 · 12-13-2012, 09:04 PM

We will definitely meet up in the near future. Can you feel a big difference with all the mods you have done compared to stock? If so, I wouldn't fret over what that dyno read especially without a baseline.

That_1_Guy · 12-17-2012, 11:39 AM

Those number are right on... you can see my set up in my sig. I dyno'd a few weeks ago on a dynojet, and I put down 352 to the rear wheels while running 93.

Hoping to bump up to the ISO board soon enough and get some E85 mix going on, and try it again.

geared · 12-17-2012, 11:50 AM

same here...i just did the ISO.

I am doing e-85 this week. What mix will you run?

you think the air scoops do anything for you? Let me know....I have the BMS....I was thinking of adding air scoops....

part of me is considering removing the BMS intake all together, as supposedly the BMW design has alot of $$$ into its r&d.....and the closed box is probably a better setup once the car reaches temperature.

That_1_Guy · 12-17-2012, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by geared

same here...i just did the ISO.

I am doing e-85 this week. What mix will you run?

you think the air scoops do anything for you? Let me know....I have the BMS....I was thinking of adding air scoops....

part of me is considering removing the BMS intake all together, as supposedly the BMW design has alot of $$$ into its r&d.....and the closed box is probably a better setup once the car reaches temperature.

I was thinking the same thing about the intake, it sounds great, and I am sure it helps at times, but when it comes down to crunch time, I think that the closed box helps a lot.

I think the scoops help a bit, with the fan blowing in the grill, but I'm not sure how much it really did. I got them for driving on the autobahn, helping with the air flow, but I think they would assist the closed box a lot more. But also, got them for looks, painted them space gray, they really accent the front well

I got the cyba scoops, couldn't beat the deal.

As far as the mix, right now I think I am going to keep running the 93 or 102 octane here in germany and not switch over to the flex fuel wiring just yet. E85 is really really hard to come by here, and when you do find it, it isn't cheap. So due to that fact, I am going to keep it simple and just run the ISO board once all the official info comes out as far as firmware, and all the supporting info.

12-07-2012, 06:09 PM	#1
geared Lieutenant Drives: No car Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: jupiter, fl Posts: 404 iTrader: (1)	Going to Dyno on Sunday....The Usual, Have a Guess Thread Going on the dyno on Sunday....Not sure what type of dyno. South Florida temps supposed to be 73-83 2012 1 with 5,500 miles motor: jb4 stg 2 map 5 93 octane, latest firmware (not iso though) ar 4" nocts cpe cp bms intake Any guesses? jb
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12-13-2012, 04:20 PM	#9
135Pats Gooby Pls. Drives: 135i Join Date: May 2012 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,554 iTrader: (0)	Dont be discouraged, its the delta that matters...dyno to dyno youll get vastly different results, ive seen dyno logs of stock n55s making as low as 230whp depending on the conditions. Depending on how many pulls you did id imagine the OE intercooler got totally heatsoaked as well. __________________ E88 FBO N54 Alpinweiss/Coral Red/Meisterschaft Race/Berk Resonated/Macht Schnell 3"/ER CP/Synapse/VRSF FMIC/BMS DCI/BMS Thermostat Delete/Rob Beck PCV/BMS OCC/Cobb 4.02/Alpina TCU Flash/Icarbon/3D Design/Cyba

12-13-2012, 08:22 PM	#12
1speedbike Colonel Drives: 2008 BMW 135i Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NJ, NYC, Baltimore Posts: 2,915 iTrader: (14)	300 on a mustang is probably close 350 on a dynojet and ~400 horses at the crank. I'd say a pickup of 100 crank horses is pretty decent for a tune and downpipes on an N55. Did you do a baseline? That and the strip will give more details. __________________ Year 1 of the 1

12-17-2012, 11:39 AM	#17
That_1_Guy Captain Drives: 2011 BMW 135i Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Stuttgart, Germany Posts: 713 iTrader: (4) Garage List 2011 BMW 135i [5.00]	Those number are right on... you can see my set up in my sig. I dyno'd a few weeks ago on a dynojet, and I put down 352 to the rear wheels while running 93. Hoping to bump up to the ISO board soon enough and get some E85 mix going on, and try it again. __________________ 2011 BMW 135i - JB4 ISO Flex Fuel / VMR 710's / 4" AR Catless DP / BMS Intake w/ Air Scoops / Eibach Pro Kit / MadDad Street Series Axle Back / ER Charge Pipe / BMS OCC / BMS H8 / Sammich Sticker

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12-07-2012, 06:19 PM	#2
RnmEvo9 Lieutenant Colonel Drives: 2008 135i Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Pembroke Pines, FL Posts: 1,627 iTrader: (2)	DCT or 6MT? If its a dynojet, I say you will make around 350whp/385wtq.

12-07-2012, 09:00 PM	#3
geared Lieutenant Drives: No car Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: jupiter, fl Posts: 404 iTrader: (1)	6 speed. Given this: http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=778675 I'd think more than what you suggest, no? I know hes ISO + e85, but hes auto and intake/tune only. but I have 6 speed, catless dp, and a charge pipe (i know doesnt amount to much) that having been said "auto + ISO jb4 + e85 = +20rwhp/~+50rwtq > 4" dp, jb4, cpe cp, 6 spd and 93? you may be right.... I will be switching to ISO and probably e85 soon, so this should be interesting.

12-07-2012, 09:26 PM	#4
b1aze Through detox Drives: 2010 135i Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Marlborough, MA Posts: 1,073 iTrader: (13)	E85 has a huge effect on power production. Especially if he went with 50/50 e85

12-10-2012, 08:04 AM	#5
Pig Farmer Lieutenant Drives: 2009 BMW 135i Join Date: May 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 488 iTrader: (0)	geared--How'd she do? Probably not the best day for a dyno. Humidity was off the charts. Almost felt like summertime. I suspect you have a 2-3% correction factor for the humidity alone. http://wahiduddin.net/calc/calc_hp.htm

12-10-2012, 01:29 PM	#6
geared Lieutenant Drives: No car Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: jupiter, fl Posts: 404 iTrader: (1)	whole setup was garbage....list was full before i got there (even tho I requested a spot well in advance)..... I will be getting on the dyno in a couple of days.

12-13-2012, 02:44 PM	#7
RnmEvo9 Lieutenant Colonel Drives: 2008 135i Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Pembroke Pines, FL Posts: 1,627 iTrader: (2)	Update?

12-13-2012, 03:00 PM	#8
geared Lieutenant Drives: No car Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: jupiter, fl Posts: 404 iTrader: (1)	mustang dyno (a very ego-robbing one from what I was told/based on other numbers from other cars).....only put down 300/314....somewhat disappointing. RnmEvo9 - I'd love to meet up, and let you drive my car....see if you think I have an issue. Logs look good according to Terry.

12-13-2012, 06:34 PM	#10
alexmtl_135i Private First Class Drives: N55 135i M Sport DCT Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 176 iTrader: (0)	300 on a mustang dyno is actually pretty good, no?

12-13-2012, 07:26 PM	#11
geared Lieutenant Drives: No car Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: jupiter, fl Posts: 404 iTrader: (1)	thanks....drag strip will tell the story

12-13-2012, 08:43 PM	#13
geared Lieutenant Drives: No car Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: jupiter, fl Posts: 404 iTrader: (1)	NO BASE

12-13-2012, 08:45 PM	#15
geared Lieutenant Drives: No car Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: jupiter, fl Posts: 404 iTrader: (1)	definitely in the near future.

12-13-2012, 09:04 PM	#16
RnmEvo9 Lieutenant Colonel Drives: 2008 135i Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Pembroke Pines, FL Posts: 1,627 iTrader: (2)	We will definitely meet up in the near future. Can you feel a big difference with all the mods you have done compared to stock? If so, I wouldn't fret over what that dyno read especially without a baseline.

12-17-2012, 11:50 AM	#18
geared Lieutenant Drives: No car Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: jupiter, fl Posts: 404 iTrader: (1)	same here...i just did the ISO. I am doing e-85 this week. What mix will you run? you think the air scoops do anything for you? Let me know....I have the BMS....I was thinking of adding air scoops.... part of me is considering removing the BMS intake all together, as supposedly the BMW design has alot of $$$ into its r&d.....and the closed box is probably a better setup once the car reaches temperature.