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      01-11-2013, 09:45 PM   #1
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Baby M with 442hp 499tq with ESS Stage 1 Gen 2 Tune w/Dynos

It's been a while since posting anything for the Baby M, but now that I have been running the ESS Stage 1 Gen 2 Tune it is worthy of posting up. This is their 2nd Generation of their Stage 1 Tune. It offers even more power and torque than the 1st Generation Stage 1 Tune, but more refined. The sport button functionality is maintained and the throttle response is instant. This was loaded using the ESS E-Flash cable which plugs directly into my laptop. Files are downloaded to the 1M in 10 mins or less. The beauty is that I can put the stock file back on the car in a matter of minutes if needed, for example if going to dealer for service.

As for the driveability with the Stage 1 Gen 2 Tune, the daily driving is the same as stock unless you feel the need to launch a rocket and then you just put the right foot down. The torque is incredible and pegs you into the seat, even the 295's for rear tires have trouble keeping the power down. There is next to no lag and the power comes on really fast and really strong. Just above 2,000rpms the car is a rocket with a smooth steep climb in power and torque. The hills around my house are no match for this added torque and power as the Baby M flies up the hills with ease! Drifting in the Baby M was easy before, but now it is even easier with the added punch. Overall the Stage 1 Gen 2 Tune feels more smooth with the delivery of power and torque compared to the Stage 1 Gen 1 Tune. As for the track, I have had this tune while on the Roval at Fontana reaching speeds of over 155mph on the oval and reeling in M3's all day long with no issues!

I am also testing out the ESS Stage 2 Tune which will be released soon, complete with dynos and reviews. I am also looking into upgrading turbos with ESS in the near future. The ESS Stage 2 Tune will be for 93+ fuel only and will be ideally designed for cars with upgraded downpipes and upgraded Intercoolers.


Here is the Baby M's stats and dyno for the Stage 1 Gen 2 Tune. Dyno runs were performed the same day on the same dyno at EAS.
  • Akrapovic Catless Downpipes
  • Eisenmann Full Race Exhaust
  • KW V3's
  • HRE P43S 19x9.5 and 19x10.5
  • IND Color Matched Grills
  • IND Color Matched Side Markers
  • Slek Lip Spoiler
  • EAS Carbon Mirrors
  • Fuel 93 Octane

Special Thanks to Tom and Steve at EAS for their Dyno assistance!


Based on using the standard 15-17% drivetrain loss the 1M Stage 1 Gen 2 Tune is making about 442 HP and 499 TQ at the crank.



Stage 1 Gen 2
MaxHP 380.74 MaxTQ 430.83
Stock
MaxHP 349.87 Max TQ 383.19







Video on Dyno




Let me know if you have any questions.



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      01-11-2013, 09:48 PM   #2
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Wow, that's a beautiful car.
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      01-12-2013, 12:54 AM   #3
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Have you considered adding an intake? That's definitely your bottle neck now. What's peak psi and what's it taper down to?
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      01-12-2013, 02:21 AM   #4
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Nice work.Is it more linear than Gen1 Larry?
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      01-12-2013, 08:13 AM   #5
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I love the wheels and look of the car with the kw and exhaust but 17% drivetrain loss seems generous as does 350whp stock, that's something like 420 hp at the crank stock by your own drivetrain loss figures? Any dynos of other cars on same Dyno that day?
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      01-13-2013, 07:23 PM   #6
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Wow, that's a beautiful car.
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Have you considered adding an intake? That's definitely your bottle neck now. What's peak psi and what's it taper down to?
Yeah, an intake will be on shortly


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Nice work.Is it more linear than Gen1 Larry?
Yes, it more linear than Gen 1. The power comes on strong, but very smooth. Hope this helps answer your question.



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I love the wheels and look of the car with the kw and exhaust but 17% drivetrain loss seems generous as does 350whp stock, that's something like 420 hp at the crank stock by your own drivetrain loss figures? Any dynos of other cars on same Dyno that day?
I have heard from several folks that 15%-17% is typical for drivetrain loss, so that is why I used this this for the calculation. The 1M is very strong and underrated from the factory. You will have to contact EAS for dyno's of other cars for that day. I was only there to see my car on the dyno. If you search threads on Bimmerpost by EAS, they have had plenty of other cars dyno'd at their facility. Hope this helps answer you questions and thanks for the compliments.


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      01-14-2013, 12:26 PM   #7
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Why not use 15% then as ESS do if you want to promote an ESS product?
http://www.esstuning.com/products/ES...-Software.html
No second generation available om their homepage at this point.
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      01-14-2013, 12:29 PM   #8
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What kind of dyno?
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      01-14-2013, 12:38 PM   #9
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Amazing results biglare..!
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      01-15-2013, 05:51 PM   #10
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Are there any vids of your car?
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      01-15-2013, 06:16 PM   #11
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.........No second generation available om their homepage at this point.
Yeh, what he said.

Is it "publicly" available or by "special request"?

I'm planning on ESS in the next few weeks, would obviously prefer the latest and greatest version.
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      01-16-2013, 03:05 AM   #12
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How much of the power gain is due to the racing exhaust versus the tune?

Also, assuming you are in "daily driver mode", do you know if it then has an impact on gas mileage (or does it just come into effect when you press the pedal down)?
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      01-16-2013, 05:48 AM   #13
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Why not use 15% then as ESS do if you want to promote an ESS product?
http://www.esstuning.com/products/ES...-Software.html
No second generation available om their homepage at this point.
Sorry, I used 16% instead of 15% for my calculations. I will let you do the math based on 15% then. Also, I am an ESS Customer and not an ESS Employee so I can promote their product based on my opinion.

As for this Tune not being on their website, please contact ESS directly as they have always been helpful and responsive. Hope this helps.





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What kind of dyno?
As the picture shows it is a Dynojet.


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Amazing results biglare..!
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Are there any vids of your car?
Here is a vid from the track a few months back.
http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=757429


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Yeh, what he said.

Is it "publicly" available or by "special request"?

I'm planning on ESS in the next few weeks, would obviously prefer the latest and greatest version.
I would contact ESS directly as they have always been very responsive and helpful when contacted. I'm sure they can provide you more details on this Stage 1 Gen 2 Tune.




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How much of the power gain is due to the racing exhaust versus the tune?

Also, assuming you are in "daily driver mode", do you know if it then has an impact on gas mileage (or does it just come into effect when you press the pedal down)?
I did not dyno the car without the exhaust, sorry.

I perform a 90+ mile drive every other week and I average over 23.5mpg with speeds of 70-90mph over the 90+ miles if that helps. The city daily driving is not changed unless you mash the gas. Please keep in mind with the added power and torque it is very very difficult not to hammer it! HAHA!

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      01-16-2013, 05:59 AM   #14
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Just wondering with Akra DP's how much louder is the exhaust with Eisenmann Race system?

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      01-16-2013, 06:04 AM   #15
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Biglare,

Just wondering with Akra DP's how much louder is the exhaust with Eisenmann Race system?

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It is quite a bit louder but the added power and torque is worth it IMO. At WOT it is pretty loud but sounds fantastic! I have received several compliments on the sound.

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It is quite a bit louder but the added power and torque is worth it IMO. At WOT it is pretty loud but sounds fantastic! I have received several compliments on the sound.

Thanks for that. Very tempting....but got a feeling my wife will go nuts if I make it louder definitely something to think about
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Thanks Big! I will do some enquiring should go well with the akra full system
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wow, that's exactly what my car did before i put ESS tune!
just didn't get the chance to run it with ESS later and sold it the car!!
regret it now!!! i'm missing it already!

these what it had with stock tune:
- Akrapovic full titanium exhaust system
- Akrapovic downpipes
- Gruppe M intake system
- AMS front mount intercooler
- 91 octane

didn't know stock tune was that good!!



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That low end torque is just pure madness, haha.

You are making some big power!

I bet an intake and intercooler would be a welcoming modification as well.

I can't wait to hear about these potential upgraded turbos. Hopefully in the future, I can find my own 1M
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That low end torque is just pure madness, haha.

You are making some big power!

I bet an intake and intercooler would be a welcoming modification as well.

I can't wait to hear about these potential upgraded turbos. Hopefully in the future, I can find my own 1M

Thanks!

I think the intake may help with a couple more hp, but the intercooler will really help on the track when we get closer to summer! Both are in the works.


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Serious power! When I look to tune mine I will certainly consider ESS.

BTW Biglare - Did you sell your M3 to a guy in Dallas? I was at BMW of Dallas last week and saw a heavily modified white e90 M3 with (after a brief glance) HREs, tons of CF and a green brembo kit. Looked great! Looked to have some sort of aftermarket front bumper with (IMO) distasteful green accents around the brake ducts.
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Serious power! When I look to tune mine I will certainly consider ESS.

BTW Biglare - Did you sell your M3 to a guy in Dallas? I was at BMW of Dallas last week and saw a heavily modified white e90 M3 with (after a brief glance) HREs, tons of CF and a green brembo kit. Looked great! Looked to have some sort of aftermarket front bumper with (IMO) distasteful green accents around the brake ducts.
Thanks! Yeah, the ease of switching tunes with the ESS E-Flash cable is nice to have. They can definitely help to meet you needs when it comes time for a tune.

Yes, I sold the M3 to a M3Post member in Dallas. The day after he purchased it he wanted to get the new Vorsteiner bumper and I heard it took him a few months to get. I am not a fan of Vorsteiner, but that is my opinion. I am glad to see the HRE's still on it. I love those wheels and their color!


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