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peasouped · 01-21-2013, 08:53 PM

You cant tell me that if you have two cars with the same exact mods but different tuners, that a dyno wont show a difference. Sure go to a track and see who's faster down the quarter mile..but that wont prove your point. Someone may shift at 6500 instead of 7000, or miss a shift, or stumble off the line.

peasouped · 01-21-2013, 08:56 PM

This thread is only of vaule to people who use this dyno. Otherwise please dont complain and say we are lying or full of bs. The only possible way to make the track good evidence is by averaging a bunch of passes.

Vigilante375 · 01-22-2013, 02:04 PM

Dyno numbers just give you an estimate of what kind of power your car is making. Taking it the the dragstrip will show what power it is really making. You might be making 415rwhp but then go to the strip, trap 112 and that shows your not near the 400 mark.

I like seeing having my stock dyno then modding it a couple of times then seeing what number's it says I'm putting down before going to the strip to see what numbers I'm really laying down.

peasouped · 01-22-2013, 02:57 PM

People drive me insane. Ive trapped 116 in a r8 v10. Thats over 500hp. Ive trapped 112 in a m5 v10. Thats 505hp. My friends rsx is 630whp and traps 120. Your telling me a car with 200whp more is only going to trap 6-10 mph faster...idk. Definitely no sufficent proof

b1aze · 01-22-2013, 03:06 PM

Power to weight ratio bruh. We aren't comparing different cars here man. We're comparing N54 E82 vehicles within 100lbs of each other curb weight. A 430hp car should easily pick up 3-4mph on a 350hp car.

ErvGotti · 01-22-2013, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Vigilante375

Dyno numbers just give you an estimate of what kind of power your car is making. Taking it the the dragstrip will show what power it is really making. You might be making 415rwhp but then go to the strip, trap 112 and that shows your not near the 400 mark.

I like seeing having my stock dyno then modding it a couple of times then seeing what number's it says I'm putting down before going to the strip to see what numbers I'm really laying down.

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Originally Posted by b1aze

Power to weight ratio bruh. We aren't comparing different cars here man. We're comparing N54 E82 vehicles within 100lbs of each other curb weight. A 430hp car should easily pick up 3-4mph on a 350hp car.

No use talking sense into him, he will not have an intelligent conversation on such because he is the expert.

FazerBoy · 01-22-2013, 03:32 PM

Dynos are a very useful tool but in truth they are best used for comparison purposes before and after a tune using the same dyno, the same car, same conditions (optimally on the same day).

That will tell you the percentage increases in power and torque.

To compare numbers produced on different dynos is fairly meaningless IMHO.

b1aze · 01-22-2013, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ErvGotti

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Originally Posted by Vigilante375

Dyno numbers just give you an estimate of what kind of power your car is making. Taking it the the dragstrip will show what power it is really making. You might be making 415rwhp but then go to the strip, trap 112 and that shows your not near the 400 mark.

I like seeing having my stock dyno then modding it a couple of times then seeing what number's it says I'm putting down before going to the strip to see what numbers I'm really laying down.

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Originally Posted by b1aze

Power to weight ratio bruh. We aren't comparing different cars here man. We're comparing N54 E82 vehicles within 100lbs of each other curb weight. A 430hp car should easily pick up 3-4mph on a 350hp car.

No use talking sense into him, he will not have an intelligent conversation on such because he is the expert.

He's a good guy. We just have differing opinions on the topic.

b1aze · 01-22-2013, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by FazerBoy

Dynos are a very useful tool but in truth they are best used for comparison purposes before and after a tune using the same dyno, the same car, same conditions (optimally on the same day).

That will tell you the percentage increases in power and torque.

To compare numbers produced on different dynos is fairly meaningless IMHO.

And what a novel comment! I can't believe this hasn't been brought up in this entire thread! Wow!

peasouped · 01-22-2013, 03:55 PM

Someone call the waaaambulance for Erv. Fazer thats exactly what ive been trying to get across

gmane · 01-22-2013, 03:56 PM

Has to be at the crank and even then those numbers seem a bit optimistic

ErvGotti · 01-22-2013, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ErvGotti

Totally agree. What most people fail to realize is just that, that dyno's are nothing more than tools to compare mods done to your car. Comparing it car to car and dyno to dyno is hard to be biased or accurate because each dyno reads different and can be manipulated.

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Originally Posted by FazerBoy

To compare numbers produced on different dynos is fairly meaningless IMHO.

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Originally Posted by peasouped

Someone call the waaaambulance for Erv. Fazer thats exactly what ive been trying to get across

So it took you a billion posts to try to get this point across when everyone on here was already in agreeance on it? Maybe if you took the time to think and read sometime you wouldn't look like a child.

You haven't schooled anyone keep thinking that. I'm sure we're all on the same page here, but you seem to eager to vet your "expertise" on the subject that you come off as a child.

Just take your your time and read the above post by myself and Fazerboy...hmmm sounds like we're saying the same thing, yet his point is what you've been trying to say all along?

peasouped · 01-22-2013, 08:52 PM

Your a complete idiot. Ive been saying exactly what fazer said. Only matters when its the SAME EXACT DYNO....you cant compare one dyno to another ....waaambulence hotsauce waaambulence. Schooled you have been sir

geared · 01-22-2013, 09:07 PM

1 peasoupbrain vs the whole board and the kid still thinks hes a champ.....so ignorant its sad.

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I know my truth...and jb4 is junk. They cause insane fuel knock in high rpm. And sorry but I dont street race. Almost lost my license twice. Your a moron if you think racing is the best way to prove power. And i trapped 112 in the v10 m5...your telling me its not 400whp...thats right traction is an issue. Again to many variables to compare that way

and for the record- you made it personal (note above).... and the only thing relevant in this thread to "school" "schooled" or schooling" is the fact that you need to go back asap - like 8th grade should do.

Dosturbos · 01-24-2013, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by geared

1 peasoupbrain vs the whole board and the kid still thinks hes a champ.....so ignorant its sad.

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I know my truth...and jb4 is junk. They cause insane fuel knock in high rpm. And sorry but I dont street race. Almost lost my license twice. Your a moron if you think racing is the best way to prove power. And i trapped 112 in the v10 m5...your telling me its not 400whp...thats right traction is an issue. Again to many variables to compare that way

and for the record- you made it personal (note above).... and the only thing relevant in this thread to "school" "schooled" or schooling" is the fact that you need to go back asap - like 8th grade should do.

I will race pea soup with my Bren tune any day. Lol. There is a stretch on 107 in Lynn to do that on.

peasouped · 01-24-2013, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by geared

1 peasoupbrain vs the whole board and the kid still thinks hes a champ.....so ignorant its sad.

and for the record- you made it personal (note above).... and the only thing relevant in this thread to "school" "schooled" or schooling" is the fact that you need to go back asap - like 8th grade should do.

Coming from the guy with a florida education..lol...Im not going to waste my time with a person who has obviously zero dyno time and zero track time

peasouped · 01-24-2013, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dosturbos

I will race pea soup with my Bren tune any day. Lol. There is a stretch on 107 in Lynn to do that on.

Well whats the point of that...if we both are bren tuned? And ill race you at the track...racing in lynn isnt the best idea lol

Dosturbos · 01-25-2013, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by peasouped

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Originally Posted by Dosturbos

I will race pea soup with my Bren tune any day. Lol. There is a stretch on 107 in Lynn to do that on.

Well whats the point of that...if we both are bren tuned? And ill race you at the track...racing in lynn isnt the best idea lol

That stretch of 107 going into Lynn from revere is perfect for a 40 roll. No cops for 1.5-2 mi at a time

Wescuddles · 01-28-2013, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by peasouped

Quote:

Originally Posted by geared

1 peasoupbrain vs the whole board and the kid still thinks hes a champ.....so ignorant its sad.

and for the record- you made it personal (note above).... and the only thing relevant in this thread to "school" "schooled" or schooling" is the fact that you need to go back asap - like 8th grade should do.

Coming from the guy with a florida education..lol...Im not going to waste my time with a person who has obviously zero dyno time and zero track time

Pretty sure you've wasted more then enough time already in this thread acting like a 10 year old arguing with someone you don't even know.

Get over it. No one cares.

BEAR-AvHistory · 01-28-2013, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by 2010BMW135i

MIAblu1: it's BrenTuning's custom E85 (Cobb) tune. I (and everyone i know that's been to him with a N54 for an E85 tune) left very happy.

Looked at Drag Times as far down as my listing #127 & can't find a Bren Tune listed. Lots of JB4, Proceeds a few COBBs but no Bren.

Same with the 135i. It Bren can put up those numbers he should be dominating the listings not be among the missing.

EINSER M · 01-28-2013, 03:09 AM

WTH

Vtec Abuser · 01-28-2013, 06:56 AM

Gotta love some of the dyno's you boys have over there...

On a 'realistic' dyno, my 135i with flash tune only makes around 300bhp ATW. You telling me that with an intake (which I doubt adds anything) this car has 115 ATW bhp more than mine?!?!?

If that is the case, he should be running close to 120bhp terminal/trap speed on the 1/4 (my best 111mph)..

Would love to see what it does run..

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01-21-2013, 08:53 PM	#89
peasouped First Lieutenant Drives: 90 325is s50/09 135i/08 328xi Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: North of Boston Posts: 329 iTrader: (2)	You cant tell me that if you have two cars with the same exact mods but different tuners, that a dyno wont show a difference. Sure go to a track and see who's faster down the quarter mile..but that wont prove your point. Someone may shift at 6500 instead of 7000, or miss a shift, or stumble off the line.

01-21-2013, 08:56 PM	#90
peasouped First Lieutenant Drives: 90 325is s50/09 135i/08 328xi Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: North of Boston Posts: 329 iTrader: (2)	This thread is only of vaule to people who use this dyno. Otherwise please dont complain and say we are lying or full of bs. The only possible way to make the track good evidence is by averaging a bunch of passes.

01-22-2013, 02:04 PM	#91
Vigilante375 First Lieutenant Drives: 2012 AW 6M 135i Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Lacey, WA Posts: 303 iTrader: (0)	Dyno numbers just give you an estimate of what kind of power your car is making. Taking it the the dragstrip will show what power it is really making. You might be making 415rwhp but then go to the strip, trap 112 and that shows your not near the 400 mark. I like seeing having my stock dyno then modding it a couple of times then seeing what number's it says I'm putting down before going to the strip to see what numbers I'm really laying down.

01-22-2013, 02:57 PM	#92
peasouped First Lieutenant Drives: 90 325is s50/09 135i/08 328xi Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: North of Boston Posts: 329 iTrader: (2)	People drive me insane. Ive trapped 116 in a r8 v10. Thats over 500hp. Ive trapped 112 in a m5 v10. Thats 505hp. My friends rsx is 630whp and traps 120. Your telling me a car with 200whp more is only going to trap 6-10 mph faster...idk. Definitely no sufficent proof

01-22-2013, 03:06 PM	#93
b1aze Through detox Drives: 2010 135i Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Marlborough, MA Posts: 1,077 iTrader: (13)	Power to weight ratio bruh. We aren't comparing different cars here man. We're comparing N54 E82 vehicles within 100lbs of each other curb weight. A 430hp car should easily pick up 3-4mph on a 350hp car.

01-22-2013, 03:32 PM	#95
FazerBoy First Lieutenant Drives: BMW E92 M3 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: London, UK Posts: 327 iTrader: (0)	Dynos are a very useful tool but in truth they are best used for comparison purposes before and after a tune using the same dyno, the same car, same conditions (optimally on the same day). That will tell you the percentage increases in power and torque. To compare numbers produced on different dynos is fairly meaningless IMHO.

01-22-2013, 03:55 PM	#98
peasouped First Lieutenant Drives: 90 325is s50/09 135i/08 328xi Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: North of Boston Posts: 329 iTrader: (2)	Someone call the waaaambulance for Erv. Fazer thats exactly what ive been trying to get across

01-22-2013, 03:56 PM	#99
gmane Second Lieutenant Drives: 135i N54 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Florida Posts: 207 iTrader: (1)	Has to be at the crank and even then those numbers seem a bit optimistic

01-22-2013, 08:52 PM	#101
peasouped First Lieutenant Drives: 90 325is s50/09 135i/08 328xi Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: North of Boston Posts: 329 iTrader: (2)	Your a complete idiot. Ive been saying exactly what fazer said. Only matters when its the SAME EXACT DYNO....you cant compare one dyno to another ....waaambulence hotsauce waaambulence. Schooled you have been sir

01-28-2013, 06:56 AM	#110
Vtec Abuser First Lieutenant Drives: 2012 135i DCT Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Every-bloody-where.. Posts: 344 iTrader: (0)	Gotta love some of the dyno's you boys have over there... On a 'realistic' dyno, my 135i with flash tune only makes around 300bhp ATW. You telling me that with an intake (which I doubt adds anything) this car has 115 ATW bhp more than mine?!?!? If that is the case, he should be running close to 120bhp terminal/trap speed on the 1/4 (my best 111mph).. Would love to see what it does run..