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[Jezzer]

1M vs M135i drag race...

[Ian///M]

Had to happen .... Don't think guy in 1M knows how to shift 1st to 2nd.

[BMW86]

[Denso]

Originally Posted by Ian///M

Had to happen .... Don't think guy in 1M knows how to shift 1st to 2nd.

Agreed !

[Robin_NL]

I didn't understand a word of it either.

Cheers
Robin

[Ian///M]

The 1M lost on the launch actually. God that M135i is ugly, great little car though.

[Tit]

The front end of that 135 is a horror movie all by itself...

[1'M Blue]

bright future coming .. if the m135i is this good and fast .. new M will be magnificent..

But love the 1M still . such a proper sports coupe.

[NPVPositive]

No big deal. Each new generation of car almost always outperforms the one it replaces . . . that's just technical progress.

Look at the Porsche 911. Every generation has been "better" than the one that came before it, at least on paper (acceleration, braking, time around the Ring, etc.)

That's not to say that some models don't stand out because of their looks or a unique combination of factors that add up to "soul." For example, there are plenty of people that would choose a mint 993 over a brand new 991, or a 1973 911S over a 1980 SC.

I like to think our 1M has that element of "soul" that will keep it desirable for years to come. Personally, I don't think many people will feel that way about the m135i.

[MrRoboto]

Don't forget, the 'standard' gearbox that the new M135 will be equipped with is an 8 speed autobox, which is likely the case in this TopGear test.

0-60 times between the M135 and a properly launched 1M should be pretty close. (those with no skill should choose the M135)

[SpencerMH]

Autobox consistency at play there, also makes better tv. Most importantly don't forget potential, we have a smart full lock differential, and the wheel arches to run much larger tires. With a $500 chip they'll both have the same power but the 1m's ability to put that that power down in a variety of conditions is superior, I run a few mods that give quite a bit more power, jb4 g5, fill it with e85, and to a lesser extent an intake and midpipes, an extra 150hp, what could an m135i due with that power? I run 295's in the back with no rubbing and the power overwhelms the tires if I don't limit boost in the low gears, no hope for the m135i; I'm beyond happy with our cars.

[mlhj83]

Originally Posted by MrRoboto

Don't forget, the 'standard' gearbox that the new M135 will be equipped with is an 8 speed autobox, which is likely the case in this TopGear test.

0-60 times between the M135 and a properly launched 1M should be pretty close. (those with no skill should choose the M135)

A bit of a blanket statement?

Originally Posted by SpencerMH

Autobox consistency at play there, also makes better tv. Most importantly don't forget potential, we have a smart full lock differential, and the wheel arches to run much larger tires. With a $500 chip they'll both have the same power but the 1m's ability to put that that power down in a variety of conditions is superior, I run a few mods that give quite a bit more power, jb4 g5, fill it with e85, and to a lesser extent an intake and midpipes, an extra 150hp, what could an m135i due with that power? I run 295's in the back with no rubbing and the power overwhelms the tires if I don't limit boost in the low gears, no hope for the m135i; I'm beyond happy with our cars.

The Variable M Diff doesn't actually fully lock, rather, it's continuously variable and can apportion 100% of torque to one wheel if the conditions are right.

[DrShimmy]

I'd take the 1M any day of the week.

[vito747]

if that launch is done properly (1m 0-62 in 4,9s) means the 135 is donig 0-62 in 3.5secs.... the 135m is a awesome car but still plays in a different league. I am sure that if you launch both 100 times it will be close and the 1m will not always win (the driver is 99,9% responsible of that) but the difference shown in the video proves that driver sucks..

[Molecourage]

What a rude film!
How dear they slander a 1M

[b1aze]

m135 looks like its a :derp:

[Dee Pee]

Those of us in the US will never have to worry about this happening to us.

[MrRoboto]

Originally Posted by mlhj83

A bit of a blanket statement?



The Variable M Diff doesn't actually fully lock, rather, it's continuously variable and can apportion 100% of torque to one wheel if the conditions are right.

Allow me to clarify...'those with no skill in launching a vehicle with a proper gearbox'

[mlhj83]

Originally Posted by MrRoboto

Allow me to clarify...'those with no skill in launching a vehicle with a proper gearbox'

I don't think choice of transmission should be based on skill, it's all preference. By saying what you said, you are inferring that only skilled drivers are allowed to drive the 1M, which in reality isn't the case. The ZF 8 speed is a fantastic gearbox; both the MT and the ZF 8 speed are proper gearboxes.

The video above is purely tongue-in-cheek; we all know the 1M is the quicker car.

[MrRoboto]

Originally Posted by mlhj83

I don't think choice of transmission should be based on skill, it's all preference. By saying what you said, you are inferring that only skilled drivers are allowed to drive the 1M, which in reality isn't the case. The ZF 8 speed is a fantastic gearbox; both the MT and the ZF 8 speed are proper gearboxes.

The video above is purely tongue-in-cheek; we all know the 1M is the quicker car.

That's not at all what I am saying.

If you lack the skill to properly launch a manual gearbox in a high torque car such as the 1M, you shouldn't be drag racing against an automatic as in the M135, where the driver only has to put his foot down.

[Dackelone]

It would be interesting to see what kind of lap times these two cars would turn.

[mlhj83]

Originally Posted by MrRoboto

That's not at all what I am saying.

If you lack the skill to properly launch a manual gearbox in a high torque car such as the 1M, you shouldn't be drag racing against an automatic as in the M135, where the driver only has to put his foot down.

Fair enough. Anyway, Top Gear is all fun and games, all this video shows is that the M135 is a quick car, nothing more.