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      07-13-2012, 12:18 PM   #23
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Dorkdog... I have had my BMW Performance SSK on my car now for over two years and I have not perceived any shifter wear or slack. Its tight as day one. I will say at first when everything is new... it is a bit notchy, but that goes away once everything breaks in.

I do not know why BMW chose not to change out the "saddle" or shifter carrier for the 128i. I am sure its not needed since they know more than us.

Here are some RealOEM.com diagrams...

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Stock shift linkage parts...
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All the parts in the stock shifter seem wear. IF you car has say over 70K miles I would say just replace all of them. #7 is the plastic bearing that takes alot of the wear. And chances are when you remove it... it will come apart. The reason is heat from the exhaust makes that plastic very brittle over time.

The sifter rod/lever (#6) also seems to come aprt over time. The reason is it's inners are made from rubber... and heat and wear and tear take its told. The "ball joint" at its base also wears - since its made from plastic. I don't like some of the aftermarket shifters bc while they are correct iwhen they say theirs won't wear(bc their design is all metal) they also don't tell you that an all metal construction will transmit
A LOT of vibration and heat into that shift lever. I think its quite reasonable to go with the BMW parts and replace them every 100K miles or so. These parts take a beating over time... and I am not so sure I would want an all metal design.

I had my dealer do the install. I've done this job on a e36 and its a real PITA. You need to have some LONG stork needle nose pliers and A LOT of patience! Also have some extra C-clips on hand... bc they always seem to come flying off when you remove them. My dealer quoted me 1/2 labor(110 euros) to do the install. The tech had some space issues doing the install... so he dropped my mid pipes - they ate the extra 1/2 hour time charge and just had me pay for two mid pipe exhaust gaskets! Love 'em!

Ron Styger - he has a good website about SSK info ( http://www.unofficialbmw.com/ronstygar.html ). I used his advice years ago and bought a Z4M shift lever arm. MAN was it tight. Probably 35mm from gate to gate! But it was also very NOTCHY and I did not like it over time. Plus you had to bend the shift lever to make it work on an e36 ( http://www.unofficialbmw.com/e36/dri...xtra_bend.html )

http://www.unofficialbmw.com/e36/int...b_install.html

http://mz3.net/short-shift.html



Perf SSK pdf...
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      07-13-2012, 12:37 PM   #24
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FYI... BMW has a new Performance Shift Knob out for the new 3er (F30). You could have a dealer order it IF you like the looks. I think its over 130 euros for the bag and knob. Only the knob would work on a 1er.

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FYI... BMW has a new Performance Shift
Thanks for your informative posts about SSK and the DIY resource, I have a feeling your very passionate about the mod!!
I like the look of the knob, better than silver on the sides
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      07-13-2012, 01:49 PM   #26
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Thanks for your informative posts about SSK, i have a feeling your very passionate about the mod!!
I like the look of the knob, better than silver on the sides
Yes, it really is a MUST HAVE mod in my book. Right up there with the "CDV delete" mod.


I would also highly recommend changing one's transmission fluid too. I was really chocked on how dark mine was at 30K miles. I recommend using Red Line's ATF-D4 in our manual trannys. YuP(!) using ATF in a manual trans. This really got rid of a notchy cold shifting from 1st to 2nd gears first shift of the morning on my car. But do your own research on which fluid to use.
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The more I look into the SSK kits and other BMW model SSK kits, the more i am convinced that a full replacement is needed of the following, especially for higher mileage cars:



#2, 3, 4, 5, 11, 12, 13
And any other clips that don't come new in SSK

#2 bushings can be replaced with Rouge Engineering parts $20 for pair, therefore $40 total:
http://www.rogueengineering.com/mm5/...Category_Code=
We need: the Rouge Engineering replacement for part# 25117507695
THESE ARE NOT IN THEIR SSK KIT, called & confirmed them

#3 & 4 ( ~$12)

#5( ~$20)

#11, 12, 13 are good to be replaced( ~$25-$30) because this is in essence what DSSR fixes in a permanent way, because it makes the connection with 11 more solid. http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum....php?t=1247138
The most highly reviewed SSK for e46 M3 (AutoSolutions Ultimate Kit) completely replaced 11 and its connection to the Shift rod. This is relevant because 11 is still the same part number sine e36 days across all BMW.
Therefore a new connection with fresh clips, would give a new BMW sensation especially with SSK.

I just think its worth doing it right if one is going to replace shifters. So the extra $100 plus maybe half an hour labour are worth it in the long run.
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had a chance to photograph 128i underside of Shift ARM( 25117532494 ) & Selector rod( 25117532496 )
notice the "reinforcement" design

I'm itching to replace all that with smth more shiny & new
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http://www.akgmotorsport.com/catalog...e9x%20Shifters

Not sure what it means, but i see a challenger to UUC DSSR & RE WSR

Really excited now to complete my SSK odyssey, perhaps with a B&M lever & new parts discussed above

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Man that f30 knob looks hot

I'm strongly considering the bimmian LED knob though, also hot haha
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I'm strongly considering the bimmian LED knob though, also hot haha
Have you seen the F10 knob the e46 guys are crazy about? Imagine a ZHP with lights!


Im bumping this up because of new product, a UUC copy sold like the B&M ssk!


http://www.direnza.co.uk/index.php?r...product_id=216

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...:X:RTQ:GB:1123

I have contacted them so far the ebay vendor has replied.
Ebay vendor has expensive shipping at 30 GBP ...


So far I know the product is designed to fit numerous e9x e8x just like B&M and it comes with lubrication just like UUC. Made out of alloy & steel like UUC.

They stated it fits e90 325i so fitment for us should be okay.
At the 50 GBP price point ( without VAT) its very interesting.

If I bargain them down, I will do the following:
Buy it and combine it with a AKG DTM selector rod/DSSR
Refresh all the bushings in the linkage
Buy ZHP style knob
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      01-28-2013, 03:38 PM   #32
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Here is the BMW Performance SSK pdf. You might find it helpful.
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Here is the BMW Performance SSK pdf. You might find it helpful.
Thanks,
Hope I get to use it and create a non BMP ssk for under $300
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Have you seen the F10 knob the e46 guys are crazy about? Imagine a ZHP with lights!


Im bumping this up because of new product, a UUC copy sold like the B&M ssk!


http://www.direnza.co.uk/index.php?r...product_id=216

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...:X:RTQ:GB:1123

I have contacted them so far the ebay vendor has replied.
Ebay vendor has expensive shipping at 30 GBP ...


So far I know the product is designed to fit numerous e9x e8x just like B&M and it comes with lubrication just like UUC. Made out of alloy & steel like UUC.

They stated it fits e90 325i so fitment for us should be okay.
At the 50 GBP price point ( without VAT) its very interesting.

If I bargain them down, I will do the following:
Buy it and combine it with a AKG DTM selector rod/DSSR
Refresh all the bushings in the linkage
Buy ZHP style knob
WOW that's so cheap!!

what would it be like compared the the UUC SSK?

way cheaper, just as good?


what's the KG DTM DSSR? better than the UUC DSSR?

if it's good, i'll buy it 100%!

can you link a pic of the F10 knob? i was looking at the bimmian orange glow knob (suits my theme lol)

i'm guessing it's like my 'sports' knob with lights?
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WOW that's so cheap!!
Yes yes its cheap. I quoted you because I know u asked about UUC a few times, and we both hated the cost.

what would it be like compared the the UUC SSK?
- looking at various images, 90% the same. The issue may be longevity or rust of its poor materials. Also UUC may have better vibration dampening in the adjusting part.
- UUC says theirs are made to each model, this is one size fits all kit like B&M

what's the AKG DTM DSSR? better than the UUC DSSR?
- Both do the same function. AKG may be lighter and without any fitment issue that UUC has gotten in trouble for. AKG are known in e36 e46 for quality stuff. I hope the AKG can fit the SSK lever thats not OEM.
I posted links above.

if it's good, i'll buy it 100%!
-Shipping is expensive. For a replica part i want to be under $100 after shipping

can you link a pic of the F10 knob? i was looking at the bimmian orange glow knob (suits my theme lol)
-Some info here, its liek ZHP with orange LED but from BMW oem
http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=695034
Image: http://f10.m5post.com/forums/attachm...9&d=1337701452
-It comes attached to to the Boot, so many people undo the lower F10 bracket & attach to their own OR simply cut boot off and use your own
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Can't imagine buying a replica of a UUC design, though I do like the idea of them losing sales.
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Can't imagine buying a replica of a UUC design.
Did you ever use their product in other cars? I recall you said u had negative experience
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For those wanting to do something wild with their SSK here is somethign i made in the summer:



This implies that a n54 stock lever is an alternative to BMP 128i ssk


EDIT::

More evidence of n54 OEM shift lever being an alternative to 128i 328i OEM shift lever

128i OEM:


128i SSK: Notice length below ball is 2x OEM, and Length above ball is taller by a tiny bit 5mm


n54 OEM: NOTICE: Almost 2x below ball, therefore a bit longer throw short then 128i/328i SSK, but Above is shorter than 128i/328i SSK & 128i OEM
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I have several thoughts:
1) everything UUC makes is crap and the company is morally corrupt. Even if they somehow had a one off (unlikely) where they made something that isn't terrible, they still shouldn't be rewarded with a sale.
2) The 128i has the best shifter of any BMW I've ever driven... and perhaps any car I've ever driven. I even like it better than an S2000 shifter. We it me, I wouldn't even consider altering any aspect. That said, I've only driven the M sport 128i, so if that's different... that's what I've experienced.
3) F10 illuminated knob seems like a solid upgrade to me.
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2) The 128i has the best shifter of any BMW I've ever driven... and perhaps any car I've ever driven. I even like it better than an S2000 shifter. We it me, I wouldn't even consider altering any aspect. That said, I've only driven the M sport 128i, so if that's different... that's what I've experienced.
Thanks for the input. There is no difference for Msport 128i's lever as far as I know.
I measured it to be a shorter throw than Stock n54 and n55 135i so what you say has merit.

I havent decided but something about AKG's DSSR makes me want it. Hense the search for an SSK lever... But I think i should do a linkage refresh & dssr first and then decide on a lever
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I have several thoughts:
1) everything UUC makes is crap and the company is morally corrupt. Even if they somehow had a one off (unlikely) where they made something that isn't terrible, they still shouldn't be rewarded with a sale.
2) The 128i has the best shifter of any BMW I've ever driven... and perhaps any car I've ever driven. I even like it better than an S2000 shifter. We it me, I wouldn't even consider altering any aspect. That said, I've only driven the M sport 128i, so if that's different... that's what I've experienced.
3) F10 illuminated knob seems like a solid upgrade to me.
Exactly.

The only modification I would make to it would be the illuminated F10 knob when the Msport one wears out.
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I have several thoughts:
1) everything UUC makes is crap and the company is morally corrupt. Even if they somehow had a one off (unlikely) where they made something that isn't terrible, they still shouldn't be rewarded with a sale.
Agreed.
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Update - SSK

OK, I have had the SSK installed for a while now. Yesterday I upgraded the shift knob to the Performance Shift Knob, and I figured now is as good a time as any to drop in for an update.

There's really not much to say. It feels great, like it has since the SSK was installed. In driving a non-SSK vehicle (loaner) the shift throws seemed enormous.

Adding the Performance knob? Meh - jury is still out. Initial impressions are it's too small and too low with the armrest in place. It also seems rather hard to grip the knob itself without messing with the boot, as the boot wants to sort of fold over up the knurled portion of the knob leaving less of the knob exposed.

I don't think the knob is worth what it lists for; around $118 US? - I was able to get it online for less than half that so I figured I'd give it a try. I did not change out the boot to the alcantara one, so that could account for the above paragraph.

I'll have to give it some time. I just miss being able to curl my fingers over the contour of the old knob and give it a flick (yes, I'm still talking about the car!); this one seems to need to be held delicately.

I'll check back in a while...
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Time to bump it.

I am putting theory into practice.

I bought an OEM n54 135i/335i stock lever part# 25117581806. It will be combined with e46 m3 tranny mounts, a new linkage connector at the transmission and perhaps some extra yellow washers from e46/e36 to simulate dssr.

I assume the result will be: not as short throw as 128i ssk, but the lever will sit lower in the dash. So it could be a more refined 128i experience: midpoint between OEM distance and 128i ssk in throws but at the same time sitting lower and reducing diagonal distance to 5th.

My main dislike with 128i ssk was that it felt too short in a buddys car, and I actually do like to have some throw distance. My main dislike in OEM is diagonal distance to 5th and side to side play due to warn out parts ( probably one of the following: ball joint bushing, the linkage to at transmission - common fix on e36 and other models)
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128i Sport 6MT converted to Euro 130i spec, tuned by evolve ~220 whp 207 wtq(ft-lb) SAE
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"The 1-series is the last car that BMW engineered before the Germans, as a car-making culture, fell out of love with driving." - R&T 2013 135is

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