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01-30-2013, 12:19 AM | #111 |
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I learned that long ago too... but it seems I forgot about it. Sometimes you don't recognize the pig until the wrestling has commenced, and the thing I should have really learned is that you are better to abort the wrestling then keep going.... so now comes the time for aborting... I should have done that pages ago.
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01-30-2013, 12:42 AM | #112 |
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This discussion actually brings more info than I could've ever hoped for. I don't doubt Adrian one bit in his abilities and knowledge, but flinchy's points have merit and aren't simply the ramblings of a 'keyboard warrior.'
Flinchy's views (which aren't baseless as claimed, he's doing the best he can in terms of available info) are probably held by many more people who have no knowledge of the 'inside info' you just gave us Adrian. Isn't it better this way where you can put down any misconceptions?
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01-30-2013, 12:50 AM | #113 | ||
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every single post i made i made sure to check every information source i had first to look less foolish... ohhh i see why we don't get along.. you're right because you're right and nothing can ever change that, i have no idea how i didn't see that earlier, i know a lot of people like you well, have fun with that.. sorry no one can ever make you see anything differently. proven wrong, by someone who works for the company he's doing the proving for ![]() indeed. ED: note that i don't actually like arguments like this, they frustrate the hell out of me, i cannot stand people who won't listen to cold hard facts when presented to them.. the worst kind of person. SO i have learnt (well, i already knew this but lets go with it) Positive facts about the Vishnu/FFtec ST kit: - It was the first ST kit available - It holds the world record N54 1/4 time and dyno, on the development car. What you should have learnt and accepted: everything else. Quote:
bolded the important part though that is what people who have or are a part of businesses of this type, need to understand. take all the companies developing stuff right now. every flaw, delay, fault, anything good or bad, it's out in public view, If you have a poor product, it does not deserve to be sold.. you are held accountable to your potential customers.. vishnu hasn't even considered doing this. rumours, even false ones, can destroy a business. and it's no fault but their own. Last edited by flinchy; 01-30-2013 at 01:01 AM. |
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01-30-2013, 01:42 AM | #114 |
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If I am willing to fund a development project for upgrade turbos on RHD cars, how many people would consider it? How much are people willing to pay? Similar to RB pricing? My preference is a TT still, but will do what the market wants.
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it's a pretty limited market in general. |
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01-30-2013, 02:37 AM | #116 |
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It's been a good read.
So, to sum it up: A Haltech box acting as a isoloated boost controller + a DME flash(more than likely Dimsport tuning software based) + very well fabricated hardware = still some issues that need addressing before it can perform as advertised.
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My car made 296rwkw and I was pretty happy until I removed all the mods and drove it stock and it was so much more enjoyable. Only problem was it was bloody slow. |
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01-30-2013, 04:45 AM | #118 |
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Flinchy, you seem to appreciate all the hard work of Adrian and Shiv to get all the records and pushing the N54 platform to be as great as it is today. You say their achievements are so great, that they are hard to replicate. However, you have some negativity within, which hinders you to fully enjoy their achievements. If you'd get rid of that connotation, you, Adrian, N54 enthusiasts - all of us would get the positive energy to work on our cars and our jobs towards even greater achievements! As a starting point the turbos, manifolds, engine management systems, suspensions...are all available for anyone. So, we can build on those, (or some other hardware). So, as great as these guys' records are, let's, however, aim to beat them one day
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Heck, i didn't really say most of that.. Dzenno making 554rwhp and 63x tq on rb's was much much more impressive to me. Showed what headwork and slight cr lowering does for gains. Much better than changing to a single. The reasons for my negativity are thoroughly explained in this thread. Don't worry, already the aim. |
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If the can only replicate it on shop cars to date, why would anybody bother buying it?? Seems common sense really |
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As far as i'm aware the shop car has a LOT of unreleased/proto stuff they use as advertisement for their sales |
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01-30-2013, 07:01 AM | #128 |
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I'd guess the engine of the shop car is old and tired and they can replicate and better their stuff in ANY car. There is nothing specific in the shop car other than its huge mileage of very hard driving.
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They had the fuel pump long before release (obviously), likely have something in testing that's a further upgrade.. They inadvertently fixed the misfire by already having an smfw Of course they have unreleased tunes in test Who knows what else besides possibly adrian... It's pretty obvious that the development car is going to have things customer cars aren't, it's a development car.. Think for yourself for a minute? Some logic? I mean.. It's like saying it didn't have the higher versions of procede before the public, or even the ST kit itself.. If it didn't have unreleased stuff, the stuff they have already released.. Well.. Wouldn't exist! Even back before lpfp upgrades and when it was running rb's with more power than most people, it was using TONS of meth through huge nozzles.. Took a long time to learn that, shiv is very tight lipped to the public. This is even more of a waste of time than arguing with adrian, at least some of his points were valid. |
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