BMW 1 Series Coupe Forum / 1 Series Convertible Forum (1M / tii / 135i / 128i / Coupe / Cabrio / Hatchback) (BMW E82 E88 128i 130i 135i)
 





 

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      02-27-2013, 03:34 PM   #1
KEI7
First Lieutenant
 
KEI7's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 135i coupe
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Chicago

Posts: 330
iTrader: (0)

Stretch : Dunlop Direzza DZ101 or Hankook Ventus V12

I have new rims coming in and in search of new tires.
Wanted some advice about stretch of the two mentioned.

I'm prob gonna get them at Tirerack as they offer good delivery service and price, thus have come down to these 2 options.

Primary factors are cost and stretch.

As for cost they really don't differ that much so that's ok.


The wheel specs are 8.5 +38 19" for the fronts,
and thinking running 215/35/19.

Rears are of more mild offsets thus no issue,
so will decide upon the brand which will stretch better
(to avoid possible rubbing) with 215 width on 8.5J in the front.

Thanks for advice
KEI7 is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      02-27-2013, 04:25 PM   #2
1speedbike
Colonel
 
1speedbike's Avatar
 
Drives: 2008 BMW 135i
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: NJ, NYC, Baltimore

Posts: 2,934
iTrader: (15)

People on these forums tend to be very anti-stretch. I personally kinda like it as long as its not "too much" ...

My summer tires in front are 215/35/19 over the same size wheels and the stretch isn't bad at all. The star specs will have better grip than the V12s but might not be available in that size (i think they have a more limited variety but who knows). They have much squarer shoulders than the V12s, though, so they would be a little more annoying. Your passenger side might still want to rub if you're lowered and the steering wheel is turned to the left, but there's a plastic grated piece in the front of the wheel well covering up an oil cooler that you can take off for some extra clearance.
1speedbike is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-27-2013, 05:57 PM   #3
b1aze
Just one more taste...
 
Drives: 2010 135i
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Shirley, MA

Posts: 1,419
iTrader: (14)

dz101 =/= star specs. I didnt like my dz101s at all but i have no experience with the V12s
b1aze is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      02-27-2013, 09:09 PM   #4
1speedbike
Colonel
 
1speedbike's Avatar
 
Drives: 2008 BMW 135i
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: NJ, NYC, Baltimore

Posts: 2,934
iTrader: (15)

Quote:
Originally Posted by b1aze View Post
dz101 =/= star specs. I didnt like my dz101s at all but i have no experience with the V12s

my bad, all i saw was dunlop a "z" and a "1" lol. they still have pretty square / board shoulders, though, same as the dz1's.
__________________

Year 1 of the 1
1speedbike is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-28-2013, 10:38 AM   #5
KEI7
First Lieutenant
 
KEI7's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 135i coupe
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Chicago

Posts: 330
iTrader: (0)

Thanks for comment guys

I know some people on this forum are anti stretch lol

Well, each to their own, so


Seems to me like as you said Dunlops tend to be more square-shouldered than Hankooks...

I don't want to roll fenders or mod inner wheel housing and such, so would like to have the best clearance possible with the widest width.

Thanks!!!!
KEI7 is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      02-28-2013, 11:56 AM   #6
Eyeman
Lieutenant Colonel
 
Eyeman's Avatar
 
Drives: 2008 135 blk, blk, step
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Atlanta, GA

Posts: 1,664
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Is your suspension really low? I don't mind stretched tires but I prefer them stretched pretty equally front and rear. I don't think most 225/35/19s on an 8.5 et 38 would rub unless you are really lowered an inch or more and not running much camber.

My specs are in my signature. I'm pretty low in the front (fenders slightly lower than the top of my tires), running right at 2deg camber each side. For my next fronts I plan to try Michelin PSS 225/35/19. I actually do assume I will rub a little.

I don't have any experience with the exact model tires you mentioned but this is my second car with aggressive wheels and I have had issues with Dunlop Sports and Hankook 105s? running bigger than other tires that I typically used.

Good luck either way, rubbing tires are a pain, but then again so are stretched tires and curbs, etc.
__________________
BSM, Blk leather, 30%tint, Injen, RR OCC, MadDad Whisper, donut spare, 19x8.5et43fr 19x9.5et45r Volk LE37's, rear fenders rolled/pulled, Nitto 555 225/35fr PSS 255/30r, KW V1's, AR coated catless dps, Cross strutbar, CF grills and license plate holder, rearseat removal, iCarbon diffuser and front lip, ETS black anodized FMIC, M3 control arms, Quaife, ER chargepipe, ForgeDV's, Topspeed Custom Tune, V3sims, Braille
Eyeman is online now  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-28-2013, 01:23 PM   #7
cheshirecat79
Captain
 
cheshirecat79's Avatar
 
Drives: 370z & 135i
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Port Saint Lucie, FL

Posts: 900
iTrader: (0)

I would not suggest the Hankooks, as the sidewalls are not very stiff at all and are built with a bit of a "bulge".

While this is fine for most people, I don't believe it would work out well for you for a stretched setup.

I would suggest Nitto Invos or Toyo Proxies, myself.
cheshirecat79 is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      02-28-2013, 02:32 PM   #8
VMRWheels
Lieutenant General
 
VMRWheels's Avatar
 
Drives: BMW
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Anaheim, CA

Posts: 13,805
iTrader: (4)

Garage List
2014 BMW F22  [0.00]
2013 BMW F06  [0.00]
2013 BMW F30  [0.00]
I posted in your other thread, but I'll repost my response here.

Personally, I prefer the Hankooks. They stretch pretty nicely actually, and should easily fit on that wheel width. The only downside is that the sidewalls are very soft on this tire, but the DZ101s are pretty similar in that regard. I was happy with my Hankooks when I had them.
__________________

VMR | Wheels - Mitch A. | p. 714-442-7916 extension 107 | e. Mitch@velocitymotoring.com | ** VMR Winter Wheel/Tire Sale! **
VMRWheels is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-28-2013, 04:39 PM   #9
KEI7
First Lieutenant
 
KEI7's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 135i coupe
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Chicago

Posts: 330
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eyeman View Post
Is your suspension really low? I don't mind stretched tires but I prefer them stretched pretty equally front and rear. I don't think most 225/35/19s on an 8.5 et 38 would rub unless you are really lowered an inch or more and not running much camber.

My specs are in my signature. I'm pretty low in the front (fenders slightly lower than the top of my tires), running right at 2deg camber each side. For my next fronts I plan to try Michelin PSS 225/35/19. I actually do assume I will rub a little.

I don't have any experience with the exact model tires you mentioned but this is my second car with aggressive wheels and I have had issues with Dunlop Sports and Hankook 105s? running bigger than other tires that I typically used.

Good luck either way, rubbing tires are a pain, but then again so are stretched tires and curbs, etc.

I would not say I am extremely lowered, but I think more lowered than what I see as average in this forum. My fender is lower than tire surface at the moment ( I'm on winter set up with OEMs)

I think I'm going with 215 for safety, I like the stretch look anyway, so. lol



Quote:
Originally Posted by cheshirecat79 View Post
I would not suggest the Hankooks, as the sidewalls are not very stiff at all and are built with a bit of a "bulge".

While this is fine for most people, I don't believe it would work out well for you for a stretched setup.

I would suggest Nitto Invos or Toyo Proxies, myself.
Yes I got good impression through my search that Toyos are good for stretch, but they are a little pricier...

One of the other options that I thought of was Yokohama S drive, but 215/35/19 sizes Yokohama is having too much stock and they are trying to sell out their 06 year right now, and neither Tirerack or Discount Tire does not have newer year ones.. WTF I wouldnt want to be running 6-7 yr old tires...

Quote:
Originally Posted by VMRWheels View Post
I posted in your other thread, but I'll repost my response here.

Personally, I prefer the Hankooks. They stretch pretty nicely actually, and should easily fit on that wheel width. The only downside is that the sidewalls are very soft on this tire, but the DZ101s are pretty similar in that regard. I was happy with my Hankooks when I had them.
Thanks!! gonna go with Hankooks!!
KEI7 is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      03-02-2013, 12:22 PM   #10
KEI7
First Lieutenant
 
KEI7's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 135i coupe
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Chicago

Posts: 330
iTrader: (0)

Just ordered Hankook V12s! Will put them on with new wheels later this month when it gets warmer!! (and hopefully some photoshoots)

Thanks folks!!
KEI7 is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      03-04-2013, 01:56 PM   #11
VMRWheels
Lieutenant General
 
VMRWheels's Avatar
 
Drives: BMW
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Anaheim, CA

Posts: 13,805
iTrader: (4)

Garage List
2014 BMW F22  [0.00]
2013 BMW F06  [0.00]
2013 BMW F30  [0.00]
__________________

VMR | Wheels - Mitch A. | p. 714-442-7916 extension 107 | e. Mitch@velocitymotoring.com | ** VMR Winter Wheel/Tire Sale! **
VMRWheels is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      06-21-2013, 05:53 PM   #12
woahitsholland
Private
 
woahitsholland's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 135i
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boston, MA

Posts: 66
iTrader: (0)

sorry to bring up this thread and use it guys, it seems pretty knowledgeable though.

i have a thread going cause i have VMR 18's (8.5+45 and 9.5+45) and i'm having terrible rubbing even after a fender roll front and back. the fronts still rub on my bumper and the back rub on most bumps. i went with proxes r1r's and love em but they raised the car like an inch haha.. (225/40/18 and 255/35/18)
i'm thinking about ventus v12's or michelin pss's

which should i get?? my car is lowered on h&r sports and koni yellows


i was thinkin about doing a 215 front and 245 rear?? would that get rid of my rub, maybe??
woahitsholland is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      06-21-2013, 06:49 PM   #13
VMRWheels
Lieutenant General
 
VMRWheels's Avatar
 
Drives: BMW
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Anaheim, CA

Posts: 13,805
iTrader: (4)

Garage List
2014 BMW F22  [0.00]
2013 BMW F06  [0.00]
2013 BMW F30  [0.00]
R1Rs run larger than most tires. Hankooks are oriented at the everyday driver, so they are not super wide. Most would consider them true/on the narrower side. PSS run wider than the Hankooks.

I think if you went with the Hankooks in a 225/40/18 front and 245/35/18 rear you would be okay. 255s might be doable though since you rolled your quarters.
__________________

VMR | Wheels - Mitch A. | p. 714-442-7916 extension 107 | e. Mitch@velocitymotoring.com | ** VMR Winter Wheel/Tire Sale! **
VMRWheels is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      06-23-2013, 01:23 AM   #14
woahitsholland
Private
 
woahitsholland's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 135i
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boston, MA

Posts: 66
iTrader: (0)

Okay. Thanks a ton for the input I think I'm gonna try the pss cause it seems to be a better tire for track days and if it doesn't work I'll go hankook.
woahitsholland is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:48 PM.




1addicts
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST