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      03-26-2013, 10:26 AM   #1
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stock 261m rear wheel in front

Has anyone seen a 261m rear wheel (8.5") used up front? I like the way those wheels look and rather then buy a whole set of 4 new wheels, it might be easier to buy two used ones.

I know that Apex makes this 8.5" wheel - http://www.apexraceparts.com/EC-7-18...eel_p_156.html It has a +45 offset.

From what i've read in the official wheel/tire fitment thread, it seems possible to run a 245 without rubbing as long as you hit the offset just right. And it is 100% possible to run a 235 up front. What size spacer do you guys think this would this need?
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i run 245 blizzaks all around for winter. no rubbing what so ever on stock suspension. wheels are also stock.
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i run 245 blizzaks all around for winter. no rubbing what so ever on stock suspension. wheels are also stock.
Why run such a wide winter tire?? If you get snow, its more beneficial to have a narrower tire. Check out a 215 or even 225 width tire or even better, pick up a set of 17" steelies and run 195/205s for CHEAP.
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Why run such a wide winter tire?? If you get snow, its more beneficial to have a narrower tire. Check out a 215 or even 225 width tire or even better, pick up a set of 17" steelies and run 195/205s for CHEAP.
Where are you able to find 17" steel wheels that fit? Are they proper hub centric? I don't like the idea of running alloys in winter, the salt corrodes them to hell.

And I agree, in the winter, run the skinniest tire you can find.
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Where are you able to find 17" steel wheels that fit? Are they proper hub centric? I don't like the idea of running alloys in winter, the salt corrodes them to hell.

And I agree, in the winter, run the skinniest tire you can find.
TireRack was advertising they had steelies for our cars for 99/ea. I would give them a shout.

205/50/17 WS70s with 4x silver steelies is 968+shipping brand new. Not a bad deal for something that should last 3-4 years depending on conditions
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TireRack was advertising they had steelies for our cars for 99/ea. I would give them a shout.

205/50/17 WS70s with 4x silver steelies is 968+shipping brand new. Not a bad deal for something that should last 3-4 years depending on conditions
Awesome, thanks. Was looking earlier and did not see the steel wheels offered. Also just noticed the Michelin XIce2 is on clearance for $99/ea in a 205/50/17 and get a $70 rebate. Smoking good deal for a really good winter tire. I am usually a Blizzak user, but can't beat that price for a tire that is pretty much just as good.

Thank you!!!

Sorry for the off topic.

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i run 245 blizzaks all around for winter. no rubbing what so ever on stock suspension. wheels are also stock.
How are you running a 245 on a 7.5" wheel?
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i run 245 blizzaks all around for winter. no rubbing what so ever on stock suspension. wheels are also stock.
How are you running a 245 on a 7.5" wheel?
I'm running 245 on an 8 inch wheel. The front are 18x8. I got 245 because when I was looking for the tires, tire rack didn't offer 215 or 225 in blizzaks. I have zero problem with these tires in 3-4 inches of snow already. This is the second year of having them and I still have atleast 50% tread left. I also wanted 245 so I could rotate them to make them last. I didn't want to run the alloys in the winter either but the rims got messed up during the first install so now they are my winter rims.
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      03-27-2013, 05:36 AM   #9
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I'm running 245 on an 8 inch wheel. The front are 18x8. I got 245 because when I was looking for the tires, tire rack didn't offer 215 or 225 in blizzaks. I have zero problem with these tires in 3-4 inches of snow already. This is the second year of having them and I still have atleast 50% tread left. I also wanted 245 so I could rotate them to make them last. I didn't want to run the alloys in the winter either but the rims got messed up during the first install so now they are my winter rims.
So you didn't read the op
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From what i've read in the official wheel/tire fitment thread, it seems possible to run a 245 without rubbing as long as you hit the offset just right. And it is 100% possible to run a 235 up front. What size spacer do you guys think this would this need?
I was saying there is no need to say it seems possible. It "is", for a fact possible. I have it on my car right now.
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How are you running a 245 on a 7.5" wheel?
Not sure how or when the 7.5" wheel came into play. I never said anything about that.
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So you didn't read the op
My response was to shed a little more light on the tire size in the wheel well of my car right now. Notice how I didn't say anything about a spacer? Just throwing some info out on something that was stated as "seems possible". I'm not 100% on the offset of the stock front 18x8" wheels but with the 245 Blizzaks on them there is still a bit of clearance before anything rubs. I say Blizzaks because they seem to have more tread height and girth to them than I've seen on my summer tires. So a summer tire might give even more clearance. Just trying to offer any help i can. Sorry for disturbing the thread.
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I was saying there is no need to say it seems possible. It "is", for a fact possible. I have it on my car right now.

Not sure how or when the 7.5" wheel came into play. I never said anything about that.

My response was to shed a little more light on the tire size in the wheel well of my car right now. Notice how I didn't say anything about a spacer? Just throwing some info out on something that was stated as "seems possible". I'm not 100% on the offset of the stock front 18x8" wheels but with the 245 Blizzaks on them there is still a bit of clearance before anything rubs. I say Blizzaks because they seem to have more tread height and girth to them than I've seen on my summer tires. So a summer tire might give even more clearance. Just trying to offer any help i can. Sorry for disturbing the thread.
I was asking about the stock 261m wheels. The front 261 is an 18 x 7.5". The rear 261 is an 18 x 8.5". I was asking if someone has ran a rear 8.5" on the front (it would result in square setup w/ stock wheels). Your response was that you are running a 245 on the stock wheels. Should I have assumed that you were talking about a different set of stock wheels?
Did a 135i even come with stock 8" wheels in the front?

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Mine did. The style in my picture. Good luck with your plan. I think it will turn out.
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That was a rhetorical question. The 135i never came with 8" wheels in the front

Your wheels appear to be the 182's. Which would make them a 7.5" in the front. If you're running Blizzacks that are 245's, you must be running a 245/45/18 in order to fit the 7.5" wheels.

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I'm also really interested in possibly running this as a square setup. Interested to see if anyone's done it.
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That was a rhetorical question. The 135i never came with 8" wheels in the front.
since they never came with 8" in the front i should send them a letter to let them know they made a mistake and put them on my car.

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correct like i said 245 in the front. when i switch my rims to the summer ones i'll take my 18x8.5 rear and put it on the front and see what happens.
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as long as there is clearance to the suspension. i think there will be enough room. i think the offset might even keep it in the same place as it is now. i guess i'll find out when i switch the rims.
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I'm running 245 on an 8 inch wheel. The front are 18x8. I got 245 because when I was looking for the tires, tire rack didn't offer 215 or 225 in blizzaks. I have zero problem with these tires in 3-4 inches of snow already. This is the second year of having them and I still have atleast 50% tread left. I also wanted 245 so I could rotate them to make them last. I didn't want to run the alloys in the winter either but the rims got messed up during the first install so now they are my winter rims.
Wheel width is not measured edge to edge but rather inside of the tire bead to inside of tire bead. They are also usually stamped on the inside of the wheel on a spoke with a designation of width with a "J" next to it, eg. 7.5J18 is 18x7.5.

Both the 264 and 261M style wheels are 18x7.5 ET 48 front and 18x8.5 ET52 rear.

To answer OP, yes, you can absolutely run the rear wheels up front. It may be a bit close in strut clearance, but nothing a 3mm spacer wont fix (and you wont even need extended lugs for a 3mm spacer!). You could even run up to a 10mm spacer and go for a more flush fitment, but you may sacrifice potential tire width or need to roll fenders or add some camber.

18x8.5 square would be a nice setup for track!
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since they never came with 8" in the front i should send them a letter to let them know they made a mistake and put them on my car.

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That is not how a rim is measured.
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Now I have to crawl under there and see what's stamped. Obviously it's not measured like that. According to that its 9 wide. Figured it would give a good reference. When I get home gonna get under there and see what the stamp says. Still gonna put my rears on the front when I swap out to see.
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7 1/2Jx18 is what is stamped. 245 40 18 fit very well on them. I've always been told that the fronts are 18x8 and rear is 18x8.5. I guess that what I get from listening to the dealerships. Kinda sucks because I wanted to stick with stock width and went with a 18x8 35 offset to bring the front out a little. Glad the new wheels still ended up fitting. Learn something everyday I guess.
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since they never came with 8" in the front i should send them a letter to let them know they made a mistake and put them on my car.

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correct like i said 245 in the front. when i switch my rims to the summer ones i'll take my 18x8.5 rear and put it on the front and see what happens.
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as long as there is clearance to the suspension. i think there will be enough room. i think the offset might even keep it in the same place as it is now. i guess i'll find out when i switch the rims.

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