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      04-02-2013, 04:54 AM   #1
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Front Et40 Rubbing Somewhere

Over the weekend I installed some new wheels with new tires.
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Bremmer Kraft BR05
8x18 et40
9x18 et45

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Conti DWS
225/40/18
255/35/18

I have rolled the fenders and I'm not rubbing on them.
However when I go over a bump I am rubbing up front on something and I cant see what Im rubbing. I'll give it a day or two and pull the wheel off to see where the wear is.

Any ideas where it might be rubbing?



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Fender liner? I know it floats around a bit. I think i am also rubbing on my liner a bit in the rear. If you can get the car up in the air, take the wheels off and see if you see rub marks.
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Check inside the wheels i had the same to rear wheels.
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Fender liner? I know it floats around a bit. I think i am also rubbing on my liner a bit in the rear. If you can get the car up in the air, take the wheels off and see if you see rub marks.
That's what I'll do this weekend. I wanted to see if anyone would know where the issue was from experience.
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My guess is the fender liner. You should see rub marks on it if you take the wheel off. You can just cut the section that has been rubbed on out and it should help.
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Most likely you are rubbing on the fender clip that attaches to the front bumper. It's pretty difficult to rub on the front fender liner unless the wheel is turned full lock while the rubbing is happening. A lot of people shave down the clip and that solves the problem. Is your car lowered? What suspension? Any camber?
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I have nothing constructive to add, I’m just posting to vent at how pathetic the offsets are on our cars. 18x8 et 40 with a modestly sized tire and it’s rubbing? Meanwhile the 1M guys get to run 265 square with just about any offset under the sun. What a joke….GL OP.
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I have nothing constructive to add, Iím just posting to vent at how pathetic the offsets are on our cars. 18x8 et 40 with a modestly sized tire and itís rubbing? Meanwhile the 1M guys get to run 265 square with just about any offset under the sun. What a jokeÖ.GL OP.
The clearance definitely makes buying wheels a bit more difficult, but you guys still have options.
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Most likely you are rubbing on the fender clip that attaches to the front bumper. It's pretty difficult to rub on the front fender liner unless the wheel is turned full lock while the rubbing is happening. A lot of people shave down the clip and that solves the problem. Is your car lowered? What suspension? Any camber?
I think you may be right.
Yes, I forgot to add I am lowered on a H&R Cup Kit.

Im going to pull the wheels off this weekend and figure something out.
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Shouldn't have to pull the wheels off. Just turn them full lock left, check to see if right tire is rubbing against the liner. Then shave the fender clip with a dremmel. Then turn full lock right, check to see if tire is rubbing against the liner. Shave off the fender clip. Jack the car up and make sure there is clearance on both sides between the wheel/tire and the front struts. Should be good to go. If tire is rubbing against the liner, there's really nothing you can do other than smaller tires. It's really not going to hurt anything.

Also, sometimes what happens too, is that when full lock and going up an incline, because of the way the geometry sits and the weight transfer of the car, the shoulder of the tire will rub on the edge of the fender itself depending on the shoulder design of the tire (square vs. round). A way to check this is to look at the edge of the fender and see if paint is starting to wear away and if there are any bits of tire on the edge.

The front fender is extremely easy to roll as well. I would highly recommend this. It's a V-shape and the metal folds nice and flat on the inside really easily. The biggest limitation of the front fenders are where the fender meets the front bumper, where that fender clip is. This is the most common rubbing spot on the front and most commonly this happens during compression of the suspension. If this is happening you'll almost see like little groves cut into the side of the tire and there will be rubber bits left on the fender clip.

As you can see, I've experimented a bit with different wheels/offsets/tires/ride heights/camber lol.
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