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Is the Apex Arc-8 17x8.5 ET40 and your BBS 17x8 ET40? How would a 235 square setup be worse on the Apex wheels? |
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I didn't say you should. Are you not remembering your comment? You said ARC8's don't come in a good 17" 135i fitment: Yet you claim your BBS's are "perfect"? So a 17x8.5 ET40 is a poor fitment, but a 17x8 ET40 is "perfect"? |
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17x8 et40 is perfect for the front...but it leaves a lot of space in the rear fenders... |
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As BrokenVert points out, 18x8 is not the same as 18x8.5
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Also, according to Yokohama, regarding a given tire mounted on different wheels: Quote:
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235 Michelins will fit on a 7.5 - 9.0" wheel. 8.0 and 8.5 will both work fine. Anyone that says they can tell a difference between 8.0 and 8.5 with the same tire is full of it.
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Regardless of it you're using a 235, or a 245, or a 225 (all completely fine sizes on an 8.5" or an 8" wheel)... If you consider 17x8.5 ET40 to be a poor fitment, then surely you can't consider 17x8 ET40 to be a "perfect" fitment. That makes no sense. The extra 1/2" of wheel width doesn't cause a signficant issue, front or rear, for a given tire size. I.E. if 235's on a 17x8 fit front and rear, than 235s on a 17x8.5 will fit front and rear. Thus, one can't be considered a poor fitment, while the other "perfect" as alleged by TheStig. That's just silly. Why is this so hard to understand? |
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Because we're tossing around specs without regard to specific tire sizes, weight, how the wheel wells are filled, the potential for rubbing, fender rolling, etc. You know, screw it. Just stuff some 19s in there, I'm sure it's the best solution.
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17x8 et40 with a Z1 Star Spec rubs the front on heavy dips.
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We are talking about wheel fitments. Any fitment issues between teh wheels mentioned is due to the tire, NOT with the wheel. AKA, if a large 245 rubs, it's going to rub on both the 8" and the 8.5". A 235 will be 100% AOK on either wheel. In case you missed it: I mentioned wanting to see some ARC-8's in 17s. Stig said "APEX doesn't make a good 17" 135i fitment". Then proceded to say that his 17" BBS fitment was "perfect". Well, that statement was just plain wrong, because the fitment of the ARC-8 and the BBS are darn near the same. And both would work equally well with his 235 setup. Last edited by PrematureApex; 05-23-2013 at 03:24 PM.. |
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Shouldve been more clear - for a stock suspension car its damn near perfect. You need camber and a few other things to make a 8.5 et40 wheel fit a decent sized tire. Some people dont like dealing with these things. |
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I wear these in Winter: http://www.drive2.ru/cars/bmw/1_seri...52324031/#post It's Russian manufactured "Slik L703" forged wheels, ordered to the factory in stock size 7.5Jx17 ET47. The painting looks a little cheap, but the durability of a forged wheel is amaizing. (Anyway these can be ordered in black or white, which is OK) These are fitted with studded Goodyear UltraGrip Etreme 225/45/17 and this combo is absolutely bombproof for two tough -27 degrees icy-winters and is extremely lightweight, that is a great improvement for steering and comfort. The set of 4 wheels costs $1000 and worth every Russian "kopeika"! If someone travels to Russia and have some friend there- you can make a pre-order (1,5-2 month for production) at the Factory, and take the wheels with you then ($30-50 for delivery around Russia). Each weights 8,0kg (say 9,0kg with the box). Hope, someone could find this useful.
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18" alright - stock look. 19" looks wicked! each to their own
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Again, 235's the the ARC-8's would fit, for all intents and purposes, exactly the same as your BBS wheels do now. Great. Again, it's about tire size. Not an issue with the wheels. You'd run into trouble with larger 245s and 255s on your wheels too. JUST as you would on the APEXs, which is what they were referring to when they said you can having rubbing issues. You went with smaller tires, just as you can on any 17x8/17x8.5" ET40, and have your same "perfect" fitment. No one is saying you made a bad choice. We all like your wheels. We're trying to say your statements that ARC-8s wouldn't offer a similar fitment is just plain wrong. Eddy was warning you that, with larger tires, you may rub. If BBS cared as much about you as APEX does, they'd have told you the exact same thing. Last edited by PrematureApex; 05-24-2013 at 12:33 PM.. |
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I did talk to BBS. Their response was that so long as I ran the stock brakes or a reasonably sized Brembo BBK, I wouldn't have any issue. Their problem was with the 135i brakes primarily. Given that 245 rubs in all sizings stock, what else would we be talking about for fitment other than 235? Quote:
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