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      11-27-2014, 04:36 PM   #23
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The "Genuine" plugs are a 100k mile NGK LASER PLATINUM so likely not an issue yet. But if you are throwing a code for a misfire it is definitely an issue elsewhere in the ignition system. Cylinders misfire all the time it is just dependent on what the Manufacturer sets as its limit of acceptable misfires then it is 150% of that to throw the code. $MODE6 in higher end scan tools will show this limit.
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      12-04-2015, 01:22 PM   #24
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Just PM me and I'll send it to you. I'm wondering the best place to post it. Stinks you can't just attach PDFs into the forum. Unless I'm wrong? Let me know. I can't get to google drive at work.
Can you send me that PDF as well please? Thanks!
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      12-05-2015, 01:25 AM   #25
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Really would love this warranty pdf too... I brought it up with a dealership in va/dc area and they denied it persistently.
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      12-07-2015, 06:03 PM   #26
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I tried private messaging mahlerbeatdown for a copy of the PDF but it says he cannot accept any more private messages. Please check this, and post it to here mahlerbeatdown!
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      12-07-2015, 07:42 PM   #27
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ive called every MD dealership and theyre all saying fuel injectors are not part of the "fuel delivery system" covered under the SULEV warranty... I've emailed BMWNA for hopes of something more concrete from them
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      12-08-2015, 04:27 PM   #28
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Interesting. How are fuel injectors "not part of" the fuel delivery system. LOL. Anyway, I'm in California and I hope I never have to go through this but let me know if BMWNA replies to you, 1Hokie. :-)
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      12-09-2015, 07:41 PM   #29
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Interesting. How are fuel injectors "not part of" the fuel delivery system. LOL. Anyway, I'm in California and I hope I never have to go through this but let me know if BMWNA replies to you, 1Hokie. :-)
Bmwna ended up replying with the "see your local service specialist at a dealership"

But, out of the 4 dealerships in Maryland, the one at silver springs actually took the effort to email their district rep for clarification who agreed if the fuel injectors are bad they will cover it.

All other stealerships gave me a hard time no matter what I said

Yay for the one decent dealership out there!

So hopefully they'll see the 4 misfire codes I'm getting now are related since it has new coils and plugs already.
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      12-09-2015, 10:54 PM   #30
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Bmwna ended up replying with the "see your local service specialist at a dealership"

But, out of the 4 dealerships in Maryland, the one at silver springs actually took the effort to email their district rep for clarification who agreed if the fuel injectors are bad they will cover it.

All other stealerships gave me a hard time no matter what I said

Yay for the one decent dealership out there!

So hopefully they'll see the 4 misfire codes I'm getting now are related since it has new coils and plugs already.
Good to know, thanks for the update!
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      12-18-2015, 12:04 PM   #31
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please send copy of sulev n51 warranty!
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      02-10-2016, 12:32 AM   #32
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This is great! Thank you for posting OP.
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      02-10-2016, 02:37 PM   #33
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Does anyone have the warranty PDF to post up?
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      03-16-2016, 03:41 AM   #34
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http://cache.bmwusa.com/pdf_98389473...9344d8c78.arox
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      08-26-2017, 01:20 AM   #35
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Yea I hate when dealers don't know this stuff. I remember someone had said the SULEV components are covered for an extended warranty, but only in California. Good to know other states (especially PA!) are covdered too.

Would the labor having them installed be warrantied though?
This is only logic, and not law, but I don't think the warrantee can apply only in CA. That would put even original SULEV buyers at an extreme disadvantage in the market, by effectively making out-of-state sales much less viable. It would punish buyers who move out of state! Why should it do that? It's a bad design flaw (that this pump costs so much to replace). It would screw those buyers out of a warranty they might need and deserve! I think that the warrantee must be transferable to new owners of those cars, and valid regardless of where we sell or take them. The labor must, logically, be needed because of the part failure, so must also be covered.

BMW made SULEVs for its own benefit, to satisfy a regulator and open a market; it cannot simply transfer the associated liability, without so much as giving notice, to their buyers or to subsequent owners. Think of the bad publicity, not to mention lawsuits that would occur if it did! No, this fix, if it is ever needed, costs about as much as a new motor! That is, it costs way too much! BMW can't possibly think it should saddle owners with it.

I think that most likely this story has grown way out of proportion to the actual problem, because of the cost of the repair, which is outrageous even by BMW standards, and because of the lack of information from BMW. I think it's very likely that BMW will cover affected cars under the 15 year, 150K warrantee, no matter where they are located.

If they don't, there will be hell to pay!

I am an interested party, because I own one...

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      03-07-2018, 12:34 AM   #36
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This is only logic, and not law, but I don't think the warrantee can apply only in CA. That would put even original SULEV buyers at an extreme disadvantage in the market, by effectively making out-of-state sales much less viable. It would punish buyers who move out of state! Why should it do that? It's a bad design flaw (that this pump costs so much to replace). It would screw those buyers out of a warranty they might need and deserve! I think that the warrantee must be transferable to new owners of those cars, and valid regardless of where we sell or take them. The labor must, logically, be needed because of the part failure, so must also be covered.

BMW made SULEVs for its own benefit, to satisfy a regulator and open a market; it cannot simply transfer the associated liability, without so much as giving notice, to their buyers or to subsequent owners. Think of the bad publicity, not to mention lawsuits that would occur if it did! No, this fix, if it is ever needed, costs about as much as a new motor! That is, it costs way too much! BMW can't possibly think it should saddle owners with it.

I think that most likely this story has grown way out of proportion to the actual problem, because of the cost of the repair, which is outrageous even by BMW standards, and because of the lack of information from BMW. I think it's very likely that BMW will cover affected cars under the 15 year, 150K warrantee, no matter where they are located.

If they don't, there will be hell to pay!

I am an interested party, because I own one...


I am having an issue with my 328i 2011 sulev. Has only 67,000. It seems my pvc valve has gone bad and making a huge noise, so I've been told I need to replace valve cover completely, from the warranty stated it should be cover since it's emmisions problem. I live in Florida, I am gonna try the dealership close to me and see what happens, there are 3 within 30 mins so I'll try all three and see what answers I get and I'll report back. I agree completely with your stament, why put this warranty, but only apply to certain states, that's bs. What do I need to do, pay to register it in a state on the books and then file. Seems really stupid, they should cover regardless. Car came from being registered in NJ where the original owner had it, then to Pennsylvania, last stop was Tampa fl where I now am second owner. If that's the case, the first owner should of never let the car leave the state it was covered in.
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      03-08-2018, 12:45 PM   #37
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I am having an issue with my 328i 2011 sulev. Has only 67,000. It seems my pvc valve has gone bad and making a huge noise, so I've been told I need to replace valve cover completely, from the warranty stated it should be cover since it's emmisions problem. I live in Florida, I am gonna try the dealership close to me and see what happens, there are 3 within 30 mins so I'll try all three and see what answers I get and I'll report back. I agree completely with your stament, why put this warranty, but only apply to certain states, that's bs. What do I need to do, pay to register it in a state on the books and then file. Seems really stupid, they should cover regardless. Car came from being registered in NJ where the original owner had it, then to Pennsylvania, last stop was Tampa fl where I now am second owner. If that's the case, the first owner should of never let the car leave the state it was covered in.
I had a similar issue, I needed a new valve cover due to a bad pvc and a new eccentric shaft sensor. If I had lived in CA instead of AZ it would have saved me the $1800 I paid (dealer quoted me $3.2k) to replace the valve cover and Eccentric Shaft Sensor. I mentioned the SULEV warranty to the dealer and the rejected it. The warranty does explicitly state it had to be currently registered in one of the mentioned states and AZ wasn't one of them. The 2011 might be a little different, some of the earlier years only mentioned that the car had to have been originally registered in one of those states so the semantics might be used to get it covered. BMW closed that loophole by 2013 which is my model year. Good luck with that!
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