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      05-15-2006, 07:41 PM   #67
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lol @ the catfight.

I think you should go only if you have at least some interest in the guy. obviously he's interested in you. If you feel nothing for him, i dont' think its right. I know how guys are. If a girl even looks at them for more than 5 seconds, they think the girl has the hots for them. He seems like an innocent minded dude (or maybe NOT..), no i'm guessing he is the first, not the latter. I'm not saying you have to give it up, but at least you should have some interest imho.

oh yeah, and a single guy and single girl going... come on, its obvious. as others have stated, you really should get to know the person well though. when only two people travel together, those two people should get along really well because you are in a new environment and you dont have your home or familiar things to run back to if things turn weird. as feebear said, make sure you take plenty of money (or cc).

cliffnotes: go if you have at least some interest (don't juse use the dude cuz he's rich), either romantic interest or platonic interest. If it is platonic, make it clear that you're going as friends. if it is not, then keep quite and see if any sparks fly.
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Bella go with the guy you might even like him. Everyone has something to offer, some have good looks while other have money. Remember good looks don't last forever everybody eventually becomes ugly. My advice to you is go for the money. Plus, you say that he is a nice guy. He is rich and he is a nice guy what more do you want. Long term prosperity is much more important than love. You get fed up of everything and thats why you need money to get different things. Keeping it new. Money buys you a trip to Italy Love does not buy you anything.
dude...you cant be serious . how old are you? either youve been played like no other and/or youve never experienced true love. i guess people have different goals in life. sure it helps to have money, but if money is your ultimate goal, than homie, youre never going to be happy. money only buys you superficial happiness...hope you got a big wallet buddy, youve got a huge void to fill.

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Bella, everything sounds good except for timing and im sure you already know that. but like i said before,who knows july is a couple of months away and by then you can feel comfortable enough for such a big trip. how bout a day trip for you two,then eventually even a overnight trip somewhere first? then you can get a good feel for the guy (no pun intended ).

but as i said before also. its not about the money (doesnt matter how much of how little he spends) its about the effort. and a trip to Italy is one hulluva big effort. clearly his intentions are not to make a real good friend from this trip, no matter what he says. but he could be a genuine, nice guy and sometimes you gotta take a chance. just remember whats at stake here (i.e. your feelings, his feelings,...ect).

but the trip is a couple of months away. i say baby-steps. who knows where youll be in two months.
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Going on a long trip together, definitely let's you get to know the person's real side. Always difficult to find a good traveling partner.

If you go, make sure you get to Munich and have him order you a new 335 as a souvenier of your trip.
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well as i understand you don't really like the guy in terms of looks...liking his personality is really an excuse for you.. one thing we need to get clear, he does want to hit it badly and all the lines "get to know u" and "whatever happens" are pretty weak... yes you do live once and all that bullsh!t, but isn't it about your own principals ? what you are saying, is you don't like a guy but you will f@ck him for some trip to italy ?

by the way, i don't mean anything bad in my post, i'm just saying it how I see it..
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what you are saying, is you don't like a guy but you will f@ck him for some trip to italy ?

LOL! Many do it for much less...........everyday.

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While you're there with him, you'll probably run into and meet your future boyfriend or husband! One never knows…
Hahahaha... the ultimate nice guy shaft scenario. Guy foots bill for vacation and ends up on his own in his hotel room at night while the girl makes sweet love to the hot cabana boy she met by the pool.
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well as i understand you don't really like the guy in terms of looks...liking his personality is really an excuse for you.. one thing we need to get clear, he does want to hit it badly and all the lines "get to know u" and "whatever happens" are pretty weak... yes you do live once and all that bullsh!t, but isn't it about your own principals ? what you are saying, is you don't like a guy but you will f@ck him for some trip to italy ?

by the way, i don't mean anything bad in my post, i'm just saying it how I see it..
holy geeze...everything youve said is meant in a bad way, lets get that clear. . there are other ways to communicate your thouhgts/feelings...

i think she is genuinely interested (the whole looks thing just says, hes not the usual type of guy shes used to date) but the italy trip is a big step, a huge step, so early in the game. the only reason shes considering it is because hes hella wealthy and this trip wouldnt put any sort of strain on him financially. its not like hes taking a loan out to going to italy...that would be a no-go fo' sho'. some guys can afford going to italy like some guys going to a movie...well not quite but you get the point. though choice, but we all have faith she'll make the right choice (whatever makes her happy).
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      05-16-2006, 12:14 AM   #74
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must be a girl thing. i don't see any guys on here asking for advice on anything really.

it is definitely a chick thing. Sign of weakness, IMO. Except if you are asking for a recommendation, like which watch or computer is best. Most of her questions strike me as basic common sense. But Ms. Bella is sooo pretty, who cares what she says (the dude buying the trip to Italy doesnt!)?

please resume the catfight.

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holy geeze...everything youve said is meant in a bad way, lets get that clear. . there are other ways to communicate your thouhgts/feelings...

i think she is genuinely interested (the whole looks thing just says, hes not the usual type of guy shes used to date) but the italy trip is a big step, a huge step, so early in the game. the only reason shes considering it is because hes hella wealthy and this trip wouldnt put any sort of strain on him financially. its not like hes taking a loan out to going to italy...that would be a no-go fo' sho'. some guys can afford going to italy like some guys going to a movie...well not quite but you get the point. though choice, but we all have faith she'll make the right choice (whatever makes her happy).
thats exactly what i said too... so what you're arguing here i dont understand ?
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      05-16-2006, 01:53 AM   #76
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I did spend some more time with him today, and yes i do have an interest in him. I never knew the guy had money up until a few days ago. And i accepted his invitation for our date before i knew. So, its not really fair to say that im going out with him cause he has money.

As for the trip to italy, we talked about it more. He isnt paying for the entire thing. Hes fronting MOST of it. So, in reality .. im pitching in. So its not really a free trip to italy, its a DISCOUNTED trip to Italy lol. And the reason i posted this thread wasnt to ask if i seem like a gold digger or whatever, it was posted to gain some insight and opinions regarding traveling with someone i dont know too well.

Im not fu*king him cause hes taking me to Italy. I know you may not know me personally, but i do have morals and standards. I get hit on alot, and i never accept invitations. Crap, ive never even had a one night stand, and i can count on 1 hand how many partners ive had.. Im a good girl......most of the time.. . I just didnt want to be judged, especially being portrayed as a prostitute
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I did spend some more time with him today, and yes i do have an interest in him. I never knew the guy had money up until a few days ago. And i accepted his invitation for our date before i knew. So, its not really fair to say that im going out with him cause he has money.

As for the trip to italy, we talked about it more. He isnt paying for the entire thing. Hes fronting MOST of it. So, in reality .. im pitching in. So its not really a free trip to italy, its a DISCOUNTED trip to Italy lol. And the reason i posted this thread wasnt to ask if i seem like a gold digger or whatever, it was posted to gain some insight and opinions regarding traveling with someone i dont know too well.

Im not fu*king him cause hes taking me to Italy. I know you may not know me personally, but i do have morals and standards. I get hit on alot, and i never accept invitations. Crap, ive never even had a one night stand, and i can count on 1 hand how many partners ive had.. Im a good girl......most of the time.. . I just didnt want to be judged, especially being portrayed as a prostitute
ic... my bad, you know english ain't my first language, so I might of read it wrong -) anyways, do what you feel like and ignore my previous post
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i think you should seriously consider going then, but now only make sure you guys get along b/c a trip for two can become really crappy if it isnt planned right and you guys dont get along well. I've been roomates in college with a good childhood friend, and while we would get along great, staying together there was kinda friction, not a lot, w'ere still friends, but kinda. like we would go out a lot without the other and give the other person free space.

And then, on trips, some people want to do one thing, and another another thing, someone is going to have to give in at times. just make sure you guys get along real well before you buy any tickets.

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I did spend some more time with him today, and yes i do have an interest in him. I never knew the guy had money up until a few days ago. And i accepted his invitation for our date before i knew. So, its not really fair to say that im going out with him cause he has money.

As for the trip to italy, we talked about it more. He isnt paying for the entire thing. Hes fronting MOST of it. So, in reality .. im pitching in. So its not really a free trip to italy, its a DISCOUNTED trip to Italy lol. And the reason i posted this thread wasnt to ask if i seem like a gold digger or whatever, it was posted to gain some insight and opinions regarding traveling with someone i dont know too well.

Im not fu*king him cause hes taking me to Italy. I know you may not know me personally, but i do have morals and standards. I get hit on alot, and i never accept invitations. Crap, ive never even had a one night stand, and i can count on 1 hand how many partners ive had.. Im a good girl......most of the time.. . I just didnt want to be judged, especially being portrayed as a prostitute
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Bella, have fun Girl, all I am saying (In Engineer in me) always have a back out plan in case things get weird. Just like TL_Boy said.
Remember 2 things about dating and relationship. Take this with a grain of salt if you want. People always try to make themselves more appealling even if it means pretending to be something they are not. The great thing about dating is that you both go home and get to drop the "shield" ;the bad or good thing about traveling with someone is that a person can't keep a facade up indefinitely and you will get to see the real person. Honestly Bella, I have very few friends because I consider everybody to be my brother or sister (unless I am dating them :^) ) so I worry about them. Just be aware and be prepared.

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The only issue I see is how abrupt this happened. Summer is just a few months into the future and you’ve only known the guy for a few days before he even offered this. It seems the guy either:
1) Doesn’t have much experience dating (desperate)
2) Is a player in disguise
3) Is infatuated with you (desperate)
4) Expects something in exchange
5) Is truly a genuine guy and might eventually be the one (unlikely)

I’d say go for it if I was you and if something bad happens on the trip you can get your return ticket from him and leave separately. It sounds like he wouldn’t just not give you your return ticket now would he? All in all, I think this would be a great experience for you. To be able to travel like this.

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I really don't see a problem to this - this is how society works. There is an order to this world, wherein the richer you are as a male, the hotter, younger and thinner a girl you can attract. I can't see why she wouldn't go...basically a free trip to Italy.
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As a friend......I would tell you to go. It will be a great trip. I would expect it to be a nice break right before you go off to your program. You only live once...go and enjoy!

If I were your brother, cousin, relative.........I would say, NO F***ing way. We would hate to see you get hurt, emotionally or physically.


So..its a tough decision. Just make sure you do get along with him, cuz they trips can quickly go sour. Also...make sure he really understands that you are going for YOU...not for him. That way, he realizes that you are not expecting to sleep with him...even though, he is going to try like crazy! Are you guys going as FRIENDS or as a COUPLE??

And...let's say you guys go out to bar, club, etc...I assume you would be ok hooking up with someone else there. So, if that were to happen, would he be ok watching you hook up with a different guy, while sponsoring your trip?? He should be...if this is really a FRIENDS trip.
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As a friend......I would tell you to go. It will be a great trip. I would expect it to be a nice break right before you go off to your program. You only live once...go and enjoy!

If I were your brother, cousin, relative.........I would say, NO F***ing way. We would hate to see you get hurt, emotionally or physically.


So..its a tough decision. Just make sure you do get along with him, cuz they trips can quickly go sour. Also...make sure he really understands that you are going for YOU...not for him. That way, he realizes that you are not expecting to sleep with him...even though, he is going to try like crazy! Are you guys going as FRIENDS or as a COUPLE??

And...let's say you guys go out to bar, club, etc...I assume you would be ok hooking up with someone else there. So, if that were to happen, would he be ok watching you hook up with a different guy, while sponsoring your trip?? He should be...if this is really a FRIENDS trip.
I wouldnt hook up with another guy while i was out there. Thats disrespectful to him ,esp since he's paying for most of the trip.
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Bella,

you're A-OK in my book, but you kinda opened yourself for all the cheapshots, not that that makes it right in any way.

To the point, I had a similar situation but it was different because it involved a girl(obviously) and a few other disimilarties. I turned her down because I knew accepting her invite would mean that I was not acting w/ integrity (something that I never do), I wasn't interested in her and if I went at all... well there just would be no benefit other than going on a free trip, and her side said they would take care of "everything". So whatever you do, hope you act w/ integrity.
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I agree with magmd - to a friend I would say sure, why not but to a relative I would say HELL NO.

A golddigger would say to another golddigger "milk him for all he's worth" and that's what you should probably do in case things go sour I'm talkin' bout Gucci, Fendi, Prada, Louis Vuitton, etc. etc - shop at the insanely huge Forums there!

I'm backing you up that you can truly be interested in this guy for his personality (not for his looks or his money) because why else would there be gorgeous women today married for decades to typical, middle-class Joe-Blos? Unless he is repulsively disgusting, then that's a whole other scenario...

And he doesn't even have a passport? He sounds like a true amateur then with probably no experience of traveling abroad - hell he might even be bringing his parents along.

If he's a true gentleman he'd book two separate hotel rooms. Otherwise wouldn't that make Mrs. E90Post Bella look a little too easy to score?

EDIT: At the rate that this guy is going, keep an eye out as he may very well propose to you while in Italy!
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"If he's a true gentleman he'd book two separate hotel rooms. Otherwise wouldn't that make Mrs. E90Post Bella look a little too easy to score."

Not a bad idea... That presents a choice to bella, fuck him or not...

and if not:

He can sneak down at like 3-4AM and start hooking up with a italian escort or seomething, lmao.
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Actually, Squawks brings up a good point. Did he specify if he was going to book separate rooms? Or did he assume that you two would be staying in the same room? Did he assume you two would stay in the same bed? Has this topic been discussed or mentioned?

If you were going as friends who are just getting to know each other better, I would say the respectful and considerate thing to do is to at least ask the other person what she is comfortable with, but maybe that's just me.

However, if he doesn't ask and just assumes, I guess that should tell you something.
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However, if he doesn't ask and just assumes, I guess that should tell you something.
That tells us that this kid is seriously in need of enrolling in Mava's Ladies 101 course that's also being currently taught at www.truplayas.com
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