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kinan_sleiman2006 · 01-09-2009, 04:23 PM

BMW Group will launch their most fuel efficient and cleanest car ever later in 2009. The new BMW 116d gets a remarkable 64.2mpg, with CO2 emissions at just 118 g/km.

Using the same, albeit detuned, diesel four-banger as the 118d and 120d, the new car will be pushed around with 116hp. The engine also produces 192 ft-lb of torque at 1,750 rpm, giving the three-door a 0-62mph time of 10.2 seconds. As a five-door the car reaches 62mph a tenth-of-a-second slower. Top speed for both is 125mph.

Its Band B rating, a ranking based on emissions testing, which means the car will cost its new owner only £35 per year in taxes.

The new BMW 116d three-door starts at £17,605, including taxes and license fees. BMW's five-door version starts at £18,135. Sales for the clean duo begins in March 2009.

Deda · 01-09-2009, 05:17 PM

dont get me wrong but that thing dont deserVe BMW bedge..116hp is for vw golf or opel astra not for 2009 BMW!

pmeloche · 01-09-2009, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Deda

dont get me wrong but that thing dont deserVe BMW bedge..116hp is for vw golf or opel astra not for 2009 BMW!

You want high MPG and low emissions you need to tone down the HP.

slipknot · 01-10-2009, 08:26 AM

I dunno who gives a damn about oil prices anymore these days...that thing is so day before yesterday

MVF4Rrider · 01-10-2009, 11:39 AM

UK mpg aren't the same as in the US. Keep that in mind. 1 UK liquid gallon = 1.2 US gallons.

NewSong · 01-10-2009, 12:04 PM

BMW should just make a value brand called something else, not BMW.

I'm all for releasing a $16,000 value brand, and I'm not a badge whore, but something about a $16,000 BMW seems like it might dilute the badge more than it already is.

Zeeman · 01-10-2009, 03:35 PM

Where did you guys get $16K from? The GBP 17,605 price in the UK translates into $25,000 at current exchange rates.

Also, you have to understand that the market in Europe and UK is completely different than the US. People there drive much smaller cars and most engines are 2.0 L or smaller.

I was there recently in Europe riding in a Passat Wagon with a 2.0 L TDI. We had five people in the car and the back full of luggage and were regularly doing 160 Kph without a sweat. The driver did several pulls to 180 and 200 when the road opened up and I was blown away by the engine's power.

MVF4Rrider · 01-10-2009, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeeman

The driver did several pulls to 180 and 200 when the road opened up and I was blown away by the engine's power.

I set my cruise at 200 km/h typically. At night and/or low traffic, even faster. It's all what you're used to...

vgame64 · 01-10-2009, 06:46 PM

54 US MPG is fine for me. They'd release it for $16k because they always give the US cheaper prices. -->Less tax, more buyers.

If our gas was ~$5 a gallon right now, I think most Americans would be driving 2.0L or smaller engined cars.

carrabassett786 · 01-10-2009, 11:55 PM

wouldn't it be good car for city driving here? you aren't going anywhere fast anyways...

vgame64 · 01-10-2009, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by carrabassett786

wouldn't it be good car for city driving here? you aren't going anywhere fast anyways...

Perfect commute car...you don't need an M6 if you are going to be idling in traffic...

rzm3 · 01-11-2009, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by slipknot

I dunno who gives a damn about oil prices anymore these days...that thing is so day before yesterday

Because there are countries other than the US on earth, and in some places gas costs twice as much as it does in the US...

rzm3 · 01-11-2009, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by carrabassett786

wouldn't it be good car for city driving here? you aren't going anywhere fast anyways...

+1. What's wrong with having BMW driving dynamics with an efficient engine? If you want HP get a muscle car!

venom7777 · 01-13-2009, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by slipknot

I dunno who gives a damn about oil prices anymore these days...that thing is so day before yesterday

Once the recession passes and demand for oil goes back up, you'll see prices go back up to > $4 a gallon.

Andrew@ET · 01-13-2009, 02:54 PM

im sure it still has very good handling not every one needs tons of hp but i think every one wants a nice handling predictable car. with that said its not made for the U.S market anyway

Deda · 01-13-2009, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by pmeloche

You want high MPG and low emissions you need to tone down the HP.

i think that most BMW drivers dont care much about consuption,and if you push to the limit 116d its consuption goes up twice than declared!

so i will skip that model and go for 120d or 123d!

kronzprinz · 01-13-2009, 06:52 PM

Whatdahell is a 116d???? LOL!!!

ArmyBimmerDude · 01-13-2009, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by venom7777

Once the recession passes and demand for oil goes back up, you'll see prices go back up to > $4 a gallon.

Exactly. Whoever thinks the current gas prices will stay this low is a dumbass. A car this efficient will sell like hotcakes, especially if it's at $16k, which I doubt it will be. It's be the new entry vehicle for BMW.

herbz · 01-13-2009, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by NewSong

BMW should just make a value brand called something else, not BMW.

I'm all for releasing a $16,000 value brand, and I'm not a badge whore, but something about a $16,000 BMW seems like it might dilute the badge more than it already is.

the brand is already diluted with teenagers with their parents money, asians, and luxury ricer non-car enthusiasts. don't worry about the brand being diluted further.

ArmyBimmerDude · 01-13-2009, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by herbz

the brand is already diluted with teenagers with their parents money, asians, and luxury ricer non-car enthusiasts. don't worry about the brand being diluted further.

Very true, except for the asian thing.

Robert · 01-14-2009, 03:05 AM

BMW is a value brand. You get performance, quality and luxury all in one package for 60-70% cost of a Porsche. Shesh get off the high horse

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the brand is already diluted with teenagers with their parents money, asians, and luxury ricer non-car enthusiasts. don't worry about the brand being diluted further.

So true but get some sensitivity training, before being labeled as racist. What the heck you singled out asians especially in a negative connotation as asian ownership is equivalent to diluting the brand. It is true lots of young asian kids drive bmw with parents money yet think they are above everyone else while swindling parents' money. If you think that's okay perhaps I should say I don't want inbred hilly billies be ruining the bmw experience. Such a sunshine, you must be a happy individual, please seek help from a therapist for your imbalance. Otherwise we may have to talk to your employer regarding your remark.

Blotman · 01-14-2009, 02:27 PM

Whether it's about performance, luxury, or fuel economy, BMW is about A+ engineering. Why kid ourselves into thinking that a company that's trying to run a business would want to pander their products to some "exclusive demographic"?

I admit that when I was growing up, BMW carried this stigma as being an elite club to me, but it all went away when I test drove one and fell in love with it. Now I have appreciation for well-engineered cars and now only want to drive cars as such! BMW cars consist of quality and value, and the company is good at what they do!

Do I think this brand is being "diluted"? Well, I don't care because I WANT more people to be driving well-engineered cars whether it's because of the brand name or because they appreciate quality. It only raises the bar for all the other car companies. Why should anyone owning a BMW need to think they are somehow particularly special? We shouldn't because it only feeds to the image that we're stuck-up douche bags.

P.S. I'm Asian. I do realize that I'm kind of a stereotype in the Bay Area owning a BMW, but let's not hate or hurt one another.

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kinan_sleiman2006 Lieutenant Drives: BMW X3 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Syria-Tartous-Banias-po box299 Posts: 561 iTrader: (0)	BMW launches 116d with 64mpg - their most fuel efficient car (UK) BMW Group will launch their most fuel efficient and cleanest car ever later in 2009. The new BMW 116d gets a remarkable 64.2mpg, with CO2 emissions at just 118 g/km. Using the same, albeit detuned, diesel four-banger as the 118d and 120d, the new car will be pushed around with 116hp. The engine also produces 192 ft-lb of torque at 1,750 rpm, giving the three-door a 0-62mph time of 10.2 seconds. As a five-door the car reaches 62mph a tenth-of-a-second slower. Top speed for both is 125mph. Its Band B rating, a ranking based on emissions testing, which means the car will cost its new owner only £35 per year in taxes. The new BMW 116d three-door starts at £17,605, including taxes and license fees. BMW's five-door version starts at £18,135. Sales for the clean duo begins in March 2009.
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vgame64 Colonel Drives: BMW 335i Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: USA Posts: 2,481 iTrader: (9)	54 US MPG is fine for me. They'd release it for $16k because they always give the US cheaper prices. -->Less tax, more buyers. If our gas was ~$5 a gallon right now, I think most Americans would be driving 2.0L or smaller engined cars. Last edited by vgame64; 01-10-2009 at 07:16 PM.

01-09-2009, 05:17 PM	#2
Deda Major General Drives: BMW X6 35d Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Croatia Posts: 6,400 iTrader: (0)	dont get me wrong but that thing dont deserVe BMW bedge..116hp is for vw golf or opel astra not for 2009 BMW!

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Zeeman Captain Drives: E90 335 SG Join Date: May 2007 Location: Vancouver Posts: 660 iTrader: (0)	Where did you guys get $16K from? The GBP 17,605 price in the UK translates into $25,000 at current exchange rates. Also, you have to understand that the market in Europe and UK is completely different than the US. People there drive much smaller cars and most engines are 2.0 L or smaller. I was there recently in Europe riding in a Passat Wagon with a 2.0 L TDI. We had five people in the car and the back full of luggage and were regularly doing 160 Kph without a sweat. The driver did several pulls to 180 and 200 when the road opened up and I was blown away by the engine's power.

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Andrew@ET Brigadier General Drives: n55 135I AW coral red ! Join Date: May 2007 Location: miami Posts: 4,039 iTrader: (9)	im sure it still has very good handling not every one needs tons of hp but i think every one wants a nice handling predictable car. with that said its not made for the U.S market anyway

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kronzprinz Second Lieutenant Drives: 2008 M3 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: EASTCOAST Posts: 286 iTrader: (0)	Whatdahell is a 116d???? LOL!!!

01-14-2009, 02:27 PM	#22
Blotman Private First Class Drives: 08 E90 M3 6MT Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Bay Area CA Posts: 167 iTrader: (2)	Whether it's about performance, luxury, or fuel economy, BMW is about A+ engineering. Why kid ourselves into thinking that a company that's trying to run a business would want to pander their products to some "exclusive demographic"? I admit that when I was growing up, BMW carried this stigma as being an elite club to me, but it all went away when I test drove one and fell in love with it. Now I have appreciation for well-engineered cars and now only want to drive cars as such! BMW cars consist of quality and value, and the company is good at what they do! Do I think this brand is being "diluted"? Well, I don't care because I WANT more people to be driving well-engineered cars whether it's because of the brand name or because they appreciate quality. It only raises the bar for all the other car companies. Why should anyone owning a BMW need to think they are somehow particularly special? We shouldn't because it only feeds to the image that we're stuck-up douche bags. P.S. I'm Asian. I do realize that I'm kind of a stereotype in the Bay Area owning a BMW, but let's not hate or hurt one another.

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