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02-09-2009, 09:34 PM | #1 |
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2009 Summer Tire Thread
What is the BEST value for money summer performance tire? I know its only mid February but summer tire weather is only a month away for many of us in the middle and lower latitudes so I figure its worth a thread.
I used a few different sources around the internet, selecting tires that will fit on the OEM wheels and deliberately excluding RFTs from my search. In my book, the top contenders in the 225/40R18 and 255/35R18 sizes are: Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1 Star Spec 225/40ZR18 - $174 ea 255/35ZR18 - $233 ea +shipping @ Tirerack.com Yokohama S.drive 225/40ZR18 - $141 ea 255/35ZR18 - $177 ea +shipping @ Tirerack.com Nitto Invo 225/40ZR18 - $144 ea 255/35ZR18 - $183 ea Free shipping @ Discounttiredirect.com Toyo PROXES T1-R 225/40ZR18 - $169 ea 255/35ZR18 - $200 ea + shipping @ tires-easy.com The Yokohamas are considerably cheaper than the Dunlops, but they are second place to the Star Specs. What are the thoughts from the audience? I've heard fantastic things about the Nitto Invo which are priced close to the Yokohama S.drives. Tire rack doesn't carry them, so I can't find too many comparison reviews. Any one know of some other excellent value for money summer tire which I'm excluding/forgetting?
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http://www.thetireclub.com/product/ProxesR1R 225/40ZR 18 - $181.40 255/35ZR 18 - $228.77 Last edited by M3R1; 02-10-2009 at 10:44 AM.. |
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02-10-2009, 05:31 AM | #4 |
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I'm with you. I've never driven a new car who's tires weren't 1) Excessively expensive 2) Mediocre 3) Horrible value for money.
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02-10-2009, 06:13 AM | #5 |
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Personally, I've got my eye on the dunlops. Great reviews by many sources. Also, since you're putting them on the stock wheels, they look beefy since they don't have rounded sidewalls.
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When mine are shot (got two track days already lined up) it'll be Toyo Proxes T1-R's for me.
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02-10-2009, 06:49 AM | #7 |
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Hmm, good recommendation. I'm going to add them to my post at the top.
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02-10-2009, 08:08 AM | #9 |
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Yes but they are not good value for money. The smart buy is on a cheaper tire with extremely similar performance. I'm willing to give up 2% performance for a 20% reduction in price. After I compile some data I'll see which tire package offers the best performance/price ratio. It will be a little subjective but a good look none the less.
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02-10-2009, 09:53 AM | #10 |
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[quote=M3R1;4450694]I'm going to give Toyo R1R's a shot. They are basically the same price as the Dunlops, have an agressive tread pattern, are light weight, and run true to size so they will most likely not rub where others might. I will provide more info when I place my order this afternoon...
...definitely let us know what you think of the Toyo tires. I have had nothing but Toyo tires on my RSX and I loved 'em. Great grip/ride/low noise...
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02-10-2009, 10:03 AM | #11 |
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Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1 Star Spec
I got these in yesterday from Gill. 225/40 and 245/40. DForce Empower 18x8.5 should be here by the weekend. I'll post pics as soon as I get everything together and on. Tires look very impressive - just as their reviews have been. Sorry for camera phone quality.
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02-10-2009, 10:16 AM | #12 |
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I'm very interested in the Yokohama S drives.....supposedly they have 95% of the Star Specs performance, at a good 20% less price.
but haven't had any real feedback from trusted sources.
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02-10-2009, 10:26 AM | #13 |
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Based on value you should also consider the Sumitomo HTR Z3. It tested very well against some of the better tires in the max performance category.
Front $111 Rear $169 The Goodyear F1 Asymmetric is the hands down winner right now in the max performance category but they are very pricey. Their wet traction levels are unreal. The Dunlop Z1 Star Spec is a superb value as an Extreme Performance summer tire. It's the most grip you can get for the least amount of money but, of course, it will be a fast wearing tire. Gill
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02-10-2009, 10:27 AM | #14 |
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Sorry to rain on the parade but the S-Drive, though a very good tire, is no where near the Star Spec in any type of performance measurements.
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02-10-2009, 10:34 AM | #15 |
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Thats a pretty broad assertion. Tirerack.com's own review puts the S.drive at 99% of the Star Spec. Where does it fall short?
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Do you have a link for that? That would be an interesting read.
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GL bro, you'll be the 3rd member here with the EmPowers (after berk and me). You will probably get rubbing even with the 245's in the rear. Let me know hhow the tires go! I will probably get a set when I hit up the track.
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http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....1=yes&place=57 From the review summary, the Dunlop got 100% and is the review leader, with the S.drive at #2. That makes the S.drive the better value for money of the two, considering the $180 price differential for the staggered four tires.
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Unfortunately, that comparison is apples and oranges since the tires are in much different performance categories and not compared head to head. I've participated in every test done on both tires and I can honestly say there is no comparison between the two. The Dunlop is a hands down winner.
That does not mean the S-Drive is not a good tire, or a good value. It simply means they are judged differently due to their performance levels. I'm sure there are many others on here who've driven both and can echo my sentiments. If you're ever able to drive both of them head to head you'll be able to see the great differences between the two.
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Gil, I was interested in the S-Drives as well. In what performance metrics do these not do well in? To be honest, I might be looking for a tire that gives up some handling to improved noise reduction and ride comfort. I'm thinking the BMW chassis will shine through, regardless.
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Above, I was trying to help with a comparison involving this Yokohama and the Dunlop Star Spec, an Extreme Performance summer tire. In this head to head comparison the Yokohama would not stack up very well when judged on levels of wet and dry grip.
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