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      08-01-2009, 12:24 AM   #1
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why did you chosse 128i vs 135i???

Just want to know why people choose 128i vs 135i and vice versa.

I choose the 128i bc it is a daily car for me and i need to save on gas mileage if im going to drive it everyday and everywhere. Also because of speed limit, i tend to have a lead foot.
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      08-01-2009, 12:28 AM   #2
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      08-01-2009, 12:33 AM   #3
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The same reason anyone chooses any car, cost vs value.
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      08-01-2009, 06:10 AM   #4
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I was going to buy a 128i, but then I realized that several things that are options on the 128 are standard on the 135. Sport Suspension, Xenons, etc...

That and I got a fantastic deal on my 135. Got it for 128 money. Thank God for nice dealers that own up to thier mistakes.
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I chose a 135i because of the lack of "standard" options on the 128i. I was a little shocked at first that even a BMW nowadays DOESN'T have Xenons as standard. Mind you, I've never ever driven a BMW before, and I haven't even taken this 135i for a test drive. My car is coming this Sunday, Aug. 2nd and I'm very excited.

Back on topic, the 128 was also missing the big brakes, and a rear diffuser. After doing some simple math, it seemed like the 135i just had more even after throwing all the options on 128i. The 2 biturbos just seemed like an extra that was thrown on.
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      08-01-2009, 08:20 AM   #6
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BMW made it's reputation with naturally-aspirated engines.

I had driven the N54 on a number of occasions (loaners for my dad and sister) and it just wasn't right to me. Also the heat under the hood after a drive terrified me. Sure it's an awsome engine, but it just didn't feel right in a BMW. (or at least not MY BMW)

Sure the 128i has less power, but it has more then the E46 330i did. And really given the speed limit in Ohio, I didn't need any more help getting tickets.
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      08-01-2009, 08:26 AM   #7
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There was a few reasons I went 28 vs. 35!
For me #1 cost was a factor. I purchased b4 the economic downturn so there was little room for bargining when I bought.
Next I really wanted a vert so adding the vert to the 135, I was looking at over 45k.
Also the 1 second difference in speed was a non issue for me.
I have no problem arriving 1 second later and saving the extra bucks. Also after reading the reviews, sure the 35 is an animal, but the 28 is hardly a slouch.
I really dont give a crap about xenons, I can see pretty good at night with the standard.
Also now after reading some peoples thoughts about the suspension being a bit harsh, glad I dont have the sports package, bit more softer ride w/o SP, I hear!
I do wish I had the sports seats tho....my one mistake.
I know if I had sport seats then I would have the sport suspension too.
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      08-01-2009, 08:59 AM   #8
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      08-01-2009, 09:33 AM   #9
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For my needs 135 was a bit over the top and wanted to stay nearer to 30 than 40 esp. considering its the 3rd car. I "needed" about 4k for my options so the 135 although I considered and drove it I think I made the right call- for me. No I won't be challenging any N54 engined cars to a stop light derby but I'm ok w/that.
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      08-01-2009, 10:30 AM   #10
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My 128i is my commuter car...110 miles minimum per day...so my choice was driven by 1) purchase price - for the options I wanted the 128i was prefect and already a huge upgrade from what I was replacing & 2) operational cost over the life of the car - gas mileage, etc will be significantly lower with the 128i. In the end the 128i was a great balance of fun + practicality. Although I do keep getting funny looks when I tell people I bought a BMW because it was "practical"
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      08-01-2009, 11:19 AM   #11
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1. Don't particularly care for turbos & feel that BMW's non-turbo 3 liter 6 is one of the best engines around.
2. More reliable motor.
3. Overall balance of power & efficiency - good gas milage with acceptable performance which rewards skillful driving.
4. 165 lbs. less weight.
5. Lower insurance costs.
6. Had xenons on a Z4 & frankly, since I don't think they are worth the money (especially if repairs are ever needed), I preferred the option not to have them. YMMV.
7. If I need an acceleration rush, my BMW motorcycle will run rings around a 135i.
8. Price

(Ideally, I would have preferred an 130i with around 260 bhp.)

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      08-01-2009, 12:02 PM   #12
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Yup- 20/30 more NA horses and 30/40 more lb-ft would've been great.
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      08-01-2009, 01:23 PM   #13
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So if money is no consideration, just imagine you are offered a gift (128 or 135 with any options and life time gas pre paid), would you still choose 128?

PS No rights to sell car, it is like free lease, gas included, otherwise all of us will take 135, sell it, get 128 and some extra money.
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      08-01-2009, 02:24 PM   #14
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I kept the last two 325iS until they had more than 100,000 miles on them. I am a little afraid of what a 135i engine is going to look like with that many miles on it. The 128i engine is just an advanced version of what is in my 325iS so it should last a long time.

The 135i and my M-Sport 128i have the same top speed, 155 MPH. I will admit that the 135i will get there quicker, but I really don't think that I need that. The 128i is plenty quick and plenty fast.
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      08-01-2009, 02:26 PM   #15
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So if money is no consideration, just imagine you are offered a gift (128 or 135 with any options and life time gas pre paid), would you still choose 128?

PS No rights to sell car, it is like free lease, gas included, otherwise all of us will take 135, sell it, get 128 and some extra money.
If they didnt have the HPFP issue, YES!
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      08-01-2009, 02:38 PM   #16
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I choose 135i for many reasons, but one of the top 3 reasons, was the Turbo Engine! The last 10years, I have been spoiled by my A4 turbo....Can NOT go back, will not go back to N/A engine......(with a exeption of M3 or 911, but those are way out of my price range)
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      08-01-2009, 05:10 PM   #17
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dindt find extra hp was deserve $10000 here.
didnt need extra power,
but I do want the rear diffuser
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      08-01-2009, 07:23 PM   #18
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I was buying a vert so my purchase price was already up ~$5k. Another ~$5K for the turbo was more than I wanted to spend.

My other logic was the same reason I did not buy a used Corvette. It is faster but where can you use that speed? The 128i is fast enough for any situation. I have to admit, I liked driving the 135i coupe at the performance center, on the track. But you can't drive like that on the street - at least not for very long or very far.

I also keep cars a long time and worry about turbo motor longevity. That is the same reason I was not interested in VW Eos vert or a Volvo vert. I did not want a turbo motor. In the case of the VW or Volvo, it is a turbo just to get to the 128 level of performance. At least the 135 is a genuinely FAST vehicle.

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      08-01-2009, 09:27 PM   #19
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There was a few reasons I went 28 vs. 35!
For me #1 cost was a factor. I purchased b4 the economic downturn so there was little room for bargining when I bought.
Next I really wanted a vert so adding the vert to the 135, I was looking at over 45k.
Also the 1 second difference in speed was a non issue for me.
I have no problem arriving 1 second later and saving the extra bucks. Also after reading the reviews, sure the 35 is an animal, but the 28 is hardly a slouch.
I really dont give a crap about xenons, I can see pretty good at night with the standard.
Also now after reading some peoples thoughts about the suspension being a bit harsh, glad I dont have the sports package, bit more softer ride w/o SP, I hear!
I do wish I had the sports seats tho....my one mistake.
I know if I had sport seats then I would have the sport suspension too.
I agree the 128i is an excellent, and fast coupe.
There is NO reason to every question why someone would buy it over a 135i. It's really a loaded question on these forums.
It just leads to some people making themselves feel better or superior because they have the 135i. It sucks to see on an enthusiasts forum.

One thing thought, the 128i is not just 1 second "slower". It's a good deal slower in comparison to the 135i in 0-60, 1/4 mile, and trap speed, and passing, etc... The difference is greater than the difference in the E46 325i an 330i.

The seats I can see going without, but the suspension is a must have.
Luckily though, you can fix that easily, and the aftermarket will give you a BETTER sport suspension than what BMW put on.

The 1 really is a great drivers automobile, and a good "first" attempt in the North American market. I'm really looking forward to what BMW will do in the next one. And, since I lease, I'll be ready for a new BMW in 3 years.
I hope BMW fixes the little things in the 1 series. If not, then they better NOT mess up the 3 series.
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1. Don't particularly care for turbos & feel that BMW's non-turbo 3 liter 6 is one of the best engines around.
2. More reliable motor.
3. Overall balance of power & efficiency - good gas milage with acceptable performance which rewards skillful driving.
4. 165 lbs. less weight.
5. Lower insurance costs.
6. Had xenons on a Z4 & frankly, since I don't think they are worth the money (especially if repairs are ever needed), I preferred the option not to have them. YMMV.
7. If I need an acceleration rush, my BMW motorcycle will run rings around a 135i.
8. Price

(Ideally, I would have preferred an 130i with around 260 bhp.)

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I used to feel the same about xenons, and my 325i didnt' have them.
Then, I got them on my 06 A4.
Now, I'm NEVER going back to non xenon's. There is just NO comparison, especially when you live in a "country suburban" setting with very little to no street lighting.

For me, at 43yrs, insurance between the 2 wasn't much different.
In fact, the convertible was about $40 LESS than the coupe. I have the coupe.
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So if money is no consideration, just imagine you are offered a gift (128 or 135 with any options and life time gas pre paid), would you still choose 128?

PS No rights to sell car, it is like free lease, gas included, otherwise all of us will take 135, sell it, get 128 and some extra money.
See, that's a loaded question.
What's the point of that question, really?

If someone offered me a free 335i vert over my 135i coupe, YES I would take the vert. So what?
Yes, I could nearly afford to have spent the extra money on a 335i vert, but I didn't want to spend the extra money. I'm sure there are plenty of 128i owners who could afford the 135i, and they simply didn't want to spend the extra on it, as the 128i simply gives them what they want.

People buy what they want AND what they are willing to pay.
It's not as if 128i owners are acting superior to the 135i owners.
So, again, what's the point of that question?
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I was buying a vert so my purchase price was already up ~$5k. Another ~$5K for the turbo was more than I wanted to spend.

My other logic was the same reason I did not buy a used Corvette. It is faster but where can you use that speed? The 128i is fast enough for any situation. I have to admit, I liked driving the 135i coupe at the performance center, on the track. But you can't drive like that on the street - at least not for very long or very far.

I also keep cars a long time and worry about turbo motor longevity. That is the same reason I was not interested in VW Eos vert or a Volvo vert. I did not want a turbo motor. In the case of the VW or Volvo, it is a turbo just to get to the 128 level of performance. At least the 135 is a genuinely FAST vehicle.

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A lot of people have a negative view of turbo engines. However, turbocharging is not new technology, and modern installations are solid with great longevity. BMW didn't just slap on 2 turbo's and then passed it off for owners to worry. The engine itself uses the "old" 3.0 inline6, but it's been beefed up to handle the extra mechanical loads of turbo charging.
The other very important reason is because turbo/surper charging DOES give the power of larger and heavier engines while keeping the weight down and giving better MPG than an equivalent powerful larger engine.
It's very smart technology, and actually brings out the greater potential of the existing engine instead of having to go to larger displacement.

There's an old adage that goes, "there's no replacement for displacement".
Well, there really is. It's called "turbo/super charging".
BMW, and Audi more so, are applying modern turbo tech and knowledge gained over the years to make turbo's a viable replacement to displacement. With the ability to control how an engine breathes over the rev range coupled with turbo's these cars can deliver powerful low rev torque while still being able to provide high rpm torque. In the past a turbo meant you gave up some low rpm torque and smooth power delivery to gain a higher peak torque. That's not the case these days.
This turbo engine is amazingly responsive off the line, passing power, and top end.

Will it last as long as a non turbo version? I say, yes. If you simply throw a turbo kit onto a NA engine, yes you're going to take a big chance on getting that engines life. That is not what's going here. These engines are beefed up to handle the extra boost. Audi has proven that turbo charging done right will give that engine as long of a life as a NA engine.
I had a 1990 Plymouth Laser/Mits Eclipse. That was an older tech turbo, but I sold it with nearly 140k on it, and it was still running strong and not burning oil when I sold it. I did have to replace the turbo. But, the reason it failed was due to a manufacturing defect where there was a long metal shard blocking the oil feed to the turbo. So, it seized at around 60k miles.
That Mits engine is legendary regarding it's longevity and strength.
I have no reason to believe the 3.0 TT engine will last even longer given it's modern tech and design.
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