In-Car Track Video posted by BMW's M-Power.com

[OverDrive]

Originally Posted by 330CIZHP

Calling X5 M and X6 M "disappointment" would be an understatement.

Besides, the sales are completely flat for these two M cars as well so "failure" is not out of the question either.

Are you kidding me?

Out of every 10 X5/X6 that I see on the road, 3 are M's. There is a lot of demand for these cars.

I wouldn't be so sure to judge these big heavy SUV's before driving one. They are very good for what they are. Sure, they may not be what we're used to M cars being, but IMO, BMW saw an opportunity to extend their M model range, and took it and has become very successful in doing so by demolishing the competitors, namely ML63, current Cayenne Turbo S, etc

Back on topic.....

In this vid the 1-M sounds like a 135i but I'm sure due to it's M tuning it will out handle the 135i by a long shot. I doubt it will get any more power than the Z4 35iS so around 335hp at most.
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[Crisp]

Originally Posted by BimmerMat135

I agree it's should have one! At the very beginning of the movie you can see the car rev up to 7100rpm and just by the sound I dont believe that the redline will be higher than 7000rpm

I think it's pretty clear that redline is at 7k or 7.1k.
This is a pic I snapped from the video around 10 seconds in:

[Tuned1M]

^ I agree. I don't have time to blow this pic up but I did before and the redline is clearly 7k.

[Evice]

It is turbo-ed N52!!! J/K

[Mr. Nice]

Originally Posted by OverDrive

Are you kidding me?

Out of every 10 X5/X6 that I see on the road, 3 are M's. There is a lot of demand for these cars.

I wouldn't be so sure to judge these big heavy SUV's before driving one. They are very good for what they are. Sure, they may not be what we're used to M cars being, but IMO, BMW saw an opportunity to extend their M model range, and took it and has become very successful in doing so by demolishing the competitors, namely ML63, current Cayenne Turbo S, etc

+1, I don't understand why everyone hates on these cars. You already have the X5/X6 why not extend the M division and take on the Cayenne Turbo, Range Rover Sport etc. The X6M is the most appealing SUV out there IMO.

I think everyone here agrees the 135i is a great little car, how can the 1M be a disappointment when it is basically a 135 with M suspension, Brakes, LSD, body work, more rubber, etc. Sounds like a winner to me, the extra $10K premium for these goodies seems fair over a similarly equipped 135i. And why such a hot debate on how much HP BMW rates it at? To me it doesn't matter one bit, that's why we have Terry

[Madozu]

Originally Posted by Tuned1

^ I agree. I don't have time to blow this pic up but I did before and the redline is clearly 7k.

Yes, readlinhe is clearly 7k:

[IS3andME]

Originally Posted by 330CIZHP

Calling X5 M and X6 M "disappointment" would be an understatement.

Besides, the sales are completely flat for these two M cars as well so "failure" is not out of the question either.

you have sales figures. And sales figures vs their competitors, the ML63 AMG, Porsche Cayenne Turbo S?
Which what the X5/ X6 M was made to go against, and handly beats, so well that Jeep has made the M's the benchmark for it's upcoming SRT8 version.

This car will be good, but to those who think it will be the M3's hot younger sister, we won't know until we she her, and we have to have a first date to see her "personality"...

[RX7guy]

Originally Posted by Levi

Except the McLaren MP4-12C that has redline at 8.500 rpm, tell me what other turboed car has redline above 7.000 rpm? No other except M1.
M1 WILL KILL!

1993-95 Mazda RX-7 : 8000 rpm
~1992 Ferrari F40 : 7750 rpm
1997-03 lotus esprit v8 : 7500 rpm
1992 lotus esprit s4s (4cyl) : 7400 rpm
2008 mistu evo : 7000 rpm

You are so wrong dude

[Levi]

Originally Posted by RX7guy

1993-95 Mazda RX-7 : 8000 rpm
~1992 Ferrari F40 : 7750 rpm
1997-03 lotus esprit v8 : 7500 rpm
1992 lotus esprit s4s (4cyl) : 7400 rpm
2008 mistu evo : 7000 rpm

You are so wrong dude

Thanks. So will be M1. How can BMW, "best" engine maker, not be able to do this?

[Red Bread]

Not that it really matters, since it doesn't have pistons, but the FD RX-7 redlined at 9k, not 8k.

[jpuff]

Originally Posted by Levi

Except the McLaren MP4-12C that has redline at 8.500 rpm, tell me what other turboed car has redline above 7.000 rpm? No other except M1.
M1 WILL KILL!

F40

[Hans Delbruck]

You guys who are saying he can't drive just made it obvious -- you have never driven a car on a racetrack. And have likely never ridden shotgun either.

By the sound you can tell he's throttle steering out of many of the corners, sliding the tail out, controlling it, and giving the passenger a real thrill ride.

The fastest line around the track will sometimes take you over curbing on some corners, on some tracks.

The problem with the video is that the "journalist" in the passenger seat also has never driven a car at the edge, on a track, and therefore captured NONE of the driver's steering inputs. That is what is exciting about this... not just shooting straight out the front. jeez.

What you can tell from the video is that this car will slide the tail out and is controllable out of the corners (good) but we can't see how much correction the driver is doing to compensate.... knowing it's a BMW, it's probably a nice easy slide and countersteer.... would have been fun to watch that part.

[bryce]

Originally Posted by Mr. Nice

And why such a hot debate on how much HP BMW rates it at? To me it doesn't matter one bit, that's why we have Terry

Originally Posted by RX7guy

1993-95 Mazda RX-7 : 8000 rpm
~1992 Ferrari F40 : 7750 rpm
1997-03 lotus esprit v8 : 7500 rpm
1992 lotus esprit s4s (4cyl) : 7400 rpm
2008 mistu evo : 7000 rpm

You are so wrong dude

nice list.....fc3 rx-7 also redlined above 7k, was one of my favorite cars i owned

[Driv3r]

I think it revs nice and quick. Car seems to oversteer nicely in a composed manner, due to that LSD


Negatives: Engines is too quiet for ANY M, This is BIG.

they better find a "signature" tone for this car that is reminiscent of past M's..

[ATR1]

Originally Posted by JBurer

'93-'95 Mazda RX-7

[manuelf]

Originally Posted by Hans Delbruck

You guys who are saying he can't drive just made it obvious -- you have never driven a car on a racetrack. And have likely never ridden shotgun either.

Thanks
By the way, the driver is Günter Schillinger, test engineer of ///M. I think is quite a good driver. Don't know how many laps on the nordschleife he has under his belt....
But of course: Everybody here seems to be a better driver

[Jack28]

Originally Posted by Dackelone

And I cringed when he slammed the car over those curbs. Seems like teh car got air born.

Seriously!! I dont know why he would go over the curbs that many times...
On second thought its not his car so he doesnt give a shit!

Originally Posted by Itanius

I love how the driver has a permanent smile on his face. Priceless.

lol... Thats exactly what i was going to say! He has the biggest smile on this face through the whole video

So what kind of engine is the 1M going to have?
Does the car in the video have a turbo 6? I know nothing has been confirmed yet but what are the speculations?