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Rikx1M · 11-11-2010, 11:56 AM

Got my 2011 135 dyno'd today at Peter Schroop's in Stuttgart...wow the stock motor puts out 322hp...here's the chart in both DIN and SAE.

bryce · 11-11-2010, 12:11 PM

cool, nice results

just to clarify, i've read that dyno's in EU read flywheel hp or translate whp into flywheel hp, correct?

bryce · 11-11-2010, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by maxnix

Nice graphs!

Wheel and tire driven dynamometer drums? Probably at wheel "corrected" and calculated horsepower.

it's tire driven dyno's, but the results are calculated into flywheel hp. so, 330hp on a EU dyno is not whp, but an approximation of how much crank hp is being made.

JimmyT · 11-11-2010, 12:38 PM

Nice numbers for at the crank, is your car a manual or dct?

kc_skyrider · 11-11-2010, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by maxnix

Of course, I do not think they have the power robbing ethanol handicap our wise government has imposed on us. That is good for 5% - 7% more power.

10% ethanol nationwide with the government pushing for 15%. So if Ethanol is what's killing our hpfp's then BMW can't blame US fuel.

How much was it to get a pull on the dyno? Do they also have AWD dyno's? I've been looking all over Kaiserslautern and can't find one to see what my 135i can do.

Elsabor67 · 11-11-2010, 03:33 PM

KC, That is the only guy I have heard of and he also caters to americans. But I have also heard some horror stories from them too. I want to do some pulls eventually but have to wait a bit. There is no one that I know of in K-town or around that area that has a dyno. You could probably ask Klaus Peter over at Schaefer Clubsport if he knows of one around there but don't think there is one.

Rix, how much was it per pull?? Nice numbers.

Rikx1M · 11-11-2010, 04:45 PM

Nick...67 euros for the entire run.

As many of you guys beatup folks for not providing photos to prove it really happened ;-).....here's the photo.

BTW, as far as I can tell, this was a AWD dyno, and they pulled it twice, once to find out a baseline and to see what the car was losing between the engine and rear wheels...then pulled it a second time to record the values.

As you can see on the SAE chart, the rear wheel HP is 269 (green line) while the crank is 322 (red line).

I like the banner on the left...Superflow....Lie Detector ;-)

Enjoy

bryce · 11-11-2010, 04:45 PM

nice! 269 whp is pretty damn good for a stock n55

SiN55 · 11-11-2010, 05:19 PM

Yep, nice numbers!

plasar · 11-13-2010, 01:22 AM

Thanks a lot Rikx135, especially for posting HP and lb-ft for us non-metric, global standards challenged Americans.

Now go get a tune for that bad boy and let's get those HP numbers in the high 300's.

Dackelone · 11-13-2010, 07:49 AM

Very nice Rick!

Hey... I am talking to a guy down South of Suttgart who specializes in flash tunes. Maybe we can get a groupe buy?

kc_skyrider · 11-13-2010, 10:22 AM

Don't know. I figure if I dump a bottle of everclear in my CoolingMist tank that it's ethanol correcting the ethanol. Kinda like Karma...

Superfly · 11-15-2010, 06:18 AM

Hello

Very nice results

How many kilometers do you have on your car ?

romak47 · 11-15-2010, 06:44 AM

Hey rikx135, nice pull

I have done euro dyno as well. we can compare results if u want to.. however i have a n54.
I know of some other dyno guys near dortmund too. I plan on going to them again to get my upgraded results after my exhaust install, but im waiting on a FMIC + BOV pipe addition before i go. got 389 hp last time on a hot day, im predicting around 430 after these upgrades..

Superfly · 11-16-2010, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by maxnix

Yeah, you are probably correct. Still, nice torque numbers!

Of course, I do not think they have the power robbing ethanol handicap our wise government has imposed on us. That is good for 5% - 7% more power.

Well, i think you know it but ethanol is not always synonymous to "loss of power". If you have a good tune with E85 (ethanol) on a turboed car it's really magic : it's a huge gain in power

(and also it's cheaper than gas). I have this tune on my renault 21 turbo and it's a gain of 30-40hp compared to sp98 (98 octane gas) using ethanol is like using 105 octane gas)
I wanted to do it on my 135i but when it appears that the hpfp are not reliable i prefered to forget it for the moment .

Rikx1M · 11-17-2010, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Superfly

Hello

Very nice results

How many kilometers do you have on your car ?

Roughly 5500 kilometers....this is a 2011 135 with DCT

Rikx1M · 11-17-2010, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by romak47

Hey rikx135, nice pull

I have done euro dyno as well. we can compare results if u want to.. however i have a n54.
I know of some other dyno guys near dortmund too. I plan on going to them again to get my upgraded results after my exhaust install, but im waiting on a FMIC + BOV pipe addition before i go. got 389 hp last time on a hot day, im predicting around 430 after these upgrades..

Dude....389+ and potentially 430....I want to ride in this 135.....we need to visit with each other for some cross talking and let's get some good videos/photos of this ride. I'm in Heidelberg...do you ever come this way?

I'm probably going to do nurburging on the 21st of Nov or 6/7 Dec as I have a 75 euros card to use up before EOY....wanna go?

Superfly · 11-22-2010, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Rikx135

Roughly 5500 kilometers....this is a 2011 135 with DCT

Thank you, i have also 5500 kms on my 135i, i'm going to get it dynoed tomorrow. Hope to have the same results as yours

Jeef Beef · 11-22-2010, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by maxnix

Compared to gasoline, yes it is since it has fewer BTU per unit volume.

Actually no...that problem is easily corrected by simply burning more fuel. The real benefit of ethanol is that it has higher knock resistance than petrol (gas), so an E85 powered car that is tuned to run on it has an octane rating of 100+. This means that even though you are burning through much more litres (gallons) of fuel, you can get more power outright from a well tuned engine.

It's no surprise that many race cars run on E85 flex-fuel.

Anyway back on topic to the OP: great numbers from a stock car that hasn't been totally broken in yet! Should be seeing some even better numbers after it has loosened up a bit more. Any chance of having figures that are metric in nature?

Superfly · 11-23-2010, 10:05 AM

So i've got my car dymoed today
2011 135i N55 6MT 5500 kms : it done : 324 hp and 415 Nm
Not too bad, it's still young and will do a bit better at 10000 kms.

Rikx1M · 11-28-2010, 03:39 PM

Any chance of having figures that are metric in nature?

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Jeef Beef.....I posted two photos...one in US specs "SAE" and one in german specs "DIN"...isn't the german spec metric?

1r · 12-02-2010, 11:48 PM

Dude thank you i have been waiting for a stock n55 dyno! i would of taken mine but its still in europe

11-11-2010, 11:56 AM	#1
Rikx1M MSgt (ret) Drives: VO 1M #739/740 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Heidelberg Germany Posts: 1,541 iTrader: (2) Garage List 2011 BMW 1 series M ... [5.00]	dyno'd today in Stuttgart Got my 2011 135 dyno'd today at Peter Schroop's in Stuttgart...wow the stock motor puts out 322hp...here's the chart in both DIN and SAE. Attached Images
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11-11-2010, 12:38 PM	#4
JimmyT Redneck Engineer Drives: 2011 135i Join Date: May 2009 Location: Washington Posts: 435 iTrader: (0)	Nice numbers for at the crank, is your car a manual or dct? __________________

11-11-2010, 03:33 PM	#6
Elsabor67 aiming for 450..... Drives: La Jeva ;-) Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Stuttgart, Ge :-) Posts: 2,285 iTrader: (20) Garage List 2009 135i [5.00]	KC, That is the only guy I have heard of and he also caters to americans. But I have also heard some horror stories from them too. I want to do some pulls eventually but have to wait a bit. There is no one that I know of in K-town or around that area that has a dyno. You could probably ask Klaus Peter over at Schaefer Clubsport if he knows of one around there but don't think there is one. Rix, how much was it per pull?? Nice numbers. __________________ Quote from Ezeedee regarding car mods: "you're only done when you sell the car "

11-11-2010, 04:45 PM	#7
Rikx1M MSgt (ret) Drives: VO 1M #739/740 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Heidelberg Germany Posts: 1,541 iTrader: (2) Garage List 2011 BMW 1 series M ... [5.00]	Photo to prove it happened Nick...67 euros for the entire run. As many of you guys beatup folks for not providing photos to prove it really happened ;-).....here's the photo. BTW, as far as I can tell, this was a AWD dyno, and they pulled it twice, once to find out a baseline and to see what the car was losing between the engine and rear wheels...then pulled it a second time to record the values. As you can see on the SAE chart, the rear wheel HP is 269 (green line) while the crank is 322 (red line). I like the banner on the left...Superflow....Lie Detector ;-) Enjoy Attached Images

11-15-2010, 06:44 AM	#14
romak47 Captain Drives: like a bat out of hell Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 917 iTrader: (0)	Hey rikx135, nice pull I have done euro dyno as well. we can compare results if u want to.. however i have a n54. I know of some other dyno guys near dortmund too. I plan on going to them again to get my upgraded results after my exhaust install, but im waiting on a FMIC + BOV pipe addition before i go. got 389 hp last time on a hot day, im predicting around 430 after these upgrades.. __________________ JB4, DCI, Digi boost, CSL eyelids, 5% tint, KW v2's. Bastuck 85mm quad w/ cat+resonator delete mids, LED int ltg, Perf SSK, CF int trim, 19" SF-71 rims, CDV mod, BMS OCC, ER+tial charge pipe. AR DP's, Helix IC,meth,

11-11-2010, 12:11 PM	#2
bryce Banned Drives: zhp 3-pedal Join Date: May 2010 Location: texas Posts: 3,181 iTrader: (22) Garage List 2005 bmw 330ci zhp [3.67] 2008 bmw 135i- sold [3.00] 2007 bmw 335i- sold [3.57]	cool, nice results just to clarify, i've read that dyno's in EU read flywheel hp or translate whp into flywheel hp, correct?

11-11-2010, 05:19 PM	#9
SiN55 Second Lieutenant Drives: 135i N55 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Croatia Posts: 262 iTrader: (0)	Yep, nice numbers!

11-13-2010, 01:22 AM	#10
plasar plasar Drives: 118i cabrio Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Frankfurt Posts: 346 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 BMW 118i Cabrio [0.00]	Thanks a lot Rikx135, especially for posting HP and lb-ft for us non-metric, global standards challenged Americans. Now go get a tune for that bad boy and let's get those HP numbers in the high 300's.

11-13-2010, 07:49 AM	#11
Dackelone Moderator Drives: 135i Silber mit/Rot 6MT N54 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Bayern, Germany Posts: 13,046 iTrader: (0)	Very nice Rick! Hey... I am talking to a guy down South of Suttgart who specializes in flash tunes. Maybe we can get a groupe buy?

11-13-2010, 10:22 AM	#12
kc_skyrider Second Lieutenant Drives: 2009 135i M-Sport Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Kindsbach, Germany Posts: 229 iTrader: (1)	Don't know. I figure if I dump a bottle of everclear in my CoolingMist tank that it's ethanol correcting the ethanol. Kinda like Karma...

11-15-2010, 06:18 AM	#13
Superfly Private Drives: BMW 1M Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: France Posts: 82 iTrader: (0)	Hello Very nice results How many kilometers do you have on your car ?

11-23-2010, 10:05 AM	#20
Superfly Private Drives: BMW 1M Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: France Posts: 82 iTrader: (0)	So i've got my car dymoed today 2011 135i N55 6MT 5500 kms : it done : 324 hp and 415 Nm Not too bad, it's still young and will do a bit better at 10000 kms.

11-28-2010, 03:39 PM	#21
Rikx1M MSgt (ret) Drives: VO 1M #739/740 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Heidelberg Germany Posts: 1,541 iTrader: (2) Garage List 2011 BMW 1 series M ... [5.00]	Any chance of having figures that are metric in nature? [/quote] Jeef Beef.....I posted two photos...one in US specs "SAE" and one in german specs "DIN"...isn't the german spec metric?

12-02-2010, 11:48 PM	#22
1r 135i m sport Drives: 2011 135 m sport 6spd blk/red Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: USA Posts: 16 iTrader: (0)	Dude thank you i have been waiting for a stock n55 dyno! i would of taken mine but its still in europe

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