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      12-09-2010, 07:28 PM   #111
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You guys do realize this is really a last going away goodbye gift on the E82. It was never suppose to be a revolutionary M product going far and beyond 135i. This is why BMW has done the weird marketing campaign as it had in the last 2 month. Well and now M division is headed by a marketing guy.

But if you forget 135i for a second, this is a substantial car in its own right. For someone shopping for a new 1 coupe right now, 1M makes more sense than a 135i.
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      12-09-2010, 07:29 PM   #112
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But, it is just me, or do the gauges remind you of the older BMW model gauges?
I agree and I think that's a good thing. I prefer the look of the older gauges.

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      12-09-2010, 07:30 PM   #113
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They could of made this car so much better this is not an M just an overpriced is model. Same damn motor other than a tune upgrade which is the most disappointing. I can't belive they still have the same hood, trunk, and seats. I dont see a reason to upgrade for those that already have a highly modified 135i it would be a downgrade.
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      12-09-2010, 07:31 PM   #114
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Air curtain concept? That's the one thing you won't notice behind the wheel... What about the faster steering rack? Next generation M3 rear suspension? Extra power handling and cooling in the driveline? M-diff... These will make a substantive difference to how it drives. The air curtain will buy you a fraction of an MPG on the highway- nice, but more about pretty pictures for the marketing folks...
True, but as for the M3 rear suspension that's already available aftermarket via HP Autowerks. M diff is impressive, though an OS Giken is better (not for everyone though). A finned diff can easily be purchased from VAC Motorsports (though at the price some might be deterred). 1M is a damn good improvement over the 135i, but I still am not convinced it won't suffer a few of the same problems the 135i has after a few WOT laps around a circuit track. I will be in love when they release a 1M in a similar guise as the M3 GTS (and I am aware of the huge price difference with that car).
I understand the creation of this car, like this car, and will maybe one day buy this car. I am not hating on this car, and if I feel a bit disappointed in output don't get so offended. Some people on here get so "butt hurt" by comments on something that is not even out yet for the public. If you actually built this car, like optioned it so that in the end this was the end result, I could understand the offense. But you didn't do this, a corporation did this within the course of a year or two and I understand that this car is towards the end of its lifecycle. Why can't I be a little disappointed on the fact that the engine (which most people take a lot of pride in) is 90% the same as the one on an "iS".
Handling is a wonderful thing, but everyone who is harping on this wake up and smell the coffee. This car is a sports car and though you will take it to the track its going to have to help you commute there. For the twisty bits this car will be awesome, especially for tight autocross courses, but on tracks with long straights I'd like a little bit more grunt. If you don't like power go and buy yourself a Mini JCW. That way you can have all the handling you want and not so much power. Not trying to be an ass, but most of the comments directed to other users are very much in the same manner. I'm a 1Addict, I love BMWs, I love the 1 series, I love M cars, but this particular M doesn't get my blood pumping in the same way an E30-E92 M3 would. For those who forgot this is a forum and opinion is going to be given, don't get so mad when someone speaks their mind.
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      12-09-2010, 07:31 PM   #115
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30hp + gain for M model?? What is this?
This should be just 135is IMHO.
Just look at E89 z4 35i and 35is spec difference.
I am almost certain this spec is identical to E89 z4 35is engine.
Stupid naming. If this is M, then z4 35is should be called M.
There was 45hp between the E30 and E36 in the US 15yrs ago.
There was 49 between the E30 and E36 EU + two cylinders.
There was 12 between the E36 and E46.
There was 70 between the E46 and E92 + two cylinders........

What is so bad with the 30+hp using the same engine? We know it is going to be detuned. Plus this is the base design for the new M3 engine.........

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      12-09-2010, 07:32 PM   #116
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I love the way this car looks
But, it is just me, or do the gauges remind you of the older BMW model gauges?


I like these little touches that separate it from the 135i. This thing is definitely a looker.
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      12-09-2010, 07:35 PM   #118
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I like the improvements although the front bumper is meh. I understand why they did that. I would get this if I were 5-10 years younger. I also need something my wife can drive (DCT) so I can keep my 330Ci.

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30hp + gain for M model?? What is this?
This should be just 135is IMHO.
Just look at E89 z4 35i and 35is spec difference.
I am almost certain this spec is identical to E89 z4 35is engine.
Stupid naming. If this is M, then z4 35is should be called M.
I don't think the M brand is all about horsepower. I think of an M as a race car that you can drive on the street. I would like to see more of a HP difference between the iS and M though.
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      12-09-2010, 07:37 PM   #119
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      12-09-2010, 07:40 PM   #120
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There was 45hp between the E30 and E36 in the US 15yrs ago.
There was 49 between the E30 and E36 EU + two cylinders.
There was 12 between the E36 and E46.
There was 70 between the E46 and E92 + two cylinders........

What is so bad with the 30+hp using the same engine? We know it is going to be detuned. Plus this is the base design for the new M3 engine.........

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You are right about that part, but you are comparing M generations against each other. When you compare non-M to M version the gap is ALOT wider and as the years have gone by its gone from a gap of approximately 22HP to 114HP. This is the reason why some people are disappointed. The handling is leaps better than the 135i I'm sure, but 30HP is kind of like . . . okay that's cool. Most enthusiasts are going to buy this car for its handling and other performance features and look beyond specs as I would too if I were in the market, but looking at where the 1M was based off of the engine seems like an afterthought. When more specs are released about this engine are released maybe more will change their mind. I don't care either way anymore. It might be a good thing it shares so much in common with the N54 from the 135i because it will be easy to modify from the get go.
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      12-09-2010, 07:46 PM   #122
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Joking aside, the front is nice. I'm glad they fixed the curved side skirt profile but the rear bumper is too aggressive. Just not my style.
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      12-09-2010, 07:46 PM   #124
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Fantastic!!!

How it will look in black...


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      12-09-2010, 07:49 PM   #125
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Fantastic!!!

How it will look in black...

And white?
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      12-09-2010, 07:50 PM   #126
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I sure hope there right. Not too convinced based on the word "About" lol

Loving the image posted.
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      12-09-2010, 07:50 PM   #127
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OK, let's see it in black & white now. Guess Blue isn't going to make the inaugural run.

BTW, this thing needs a tune. Is that a 135 airbox and do I see an oil catch can?

I was also wondering what that black "round can" is behind the driver's side headlight. I think that might be the "sound generator" people talk about when they have the "power performance kit" installed on a x35i.

The airbox looks like a normal 135i unit.


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And white?
Dunno, perhaps something to work on later.
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Check out those wheel aches...
Do you have a High res of this?
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      12-09-2010, 07:53 PM   #130
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      12-09-2010, 07:55 PM   #132
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