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      12-10-2010, 05:10 AM   #287
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Why are they calling it a twin-power turbo I wonder?

Is it a N54 long block, with a single twin scroll maybe?

I can't read German that well.

Thanks for posting those links BTW!
Strange indeed, but in the German press release it is clearly stated it has two small Turbos.
It is also written that it is adapted, but it is not written what exactly.
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      12-10-2010, 05:13 AM   #288
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It has a single twin scroll!!!!!!
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      12-10-2010, 05:21 AM   #289
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That's why they said it felt NA.

Now it all makes sense... Look at the specs South posted...

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=463733

And on BMW's website...

http://www.bmw.de/de/de/newvehicles/...ne.html#media0
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      12-10-2010, 05:23 AM   #290
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Why do people KEEP saying they'd rather slap on every available performance part on their 135i. I get that makes you feel better about yourself, but come on!
What is it about the monumental difference that a wider track, lsd, vastly superior suspension components and vastly superior brakes has on a car that people don't understand?!
You'd have to dish out HUGE amounts of cash to get the handling of the 135i anywhere close to the 1M!
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      12-10-2010, 05:28 AM   #291
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Why do people KEEP saying they'd rather slap on every available performance part on their 135i. I get that makes you feel better about yourself, but come on!
What is it about the monumental difference that a wider track, lsd, vastly superior suspension components and vastly superior brakes has on a car that people don't understand?!
You'd have to dish out HUGE amounts of cash to get the handling of the 135i anywhere close to the 1M!
exactly! it is getting really funny!

thinks like:
  • Virtually all of the front-end components are aluminum, including the front struts, swivel bearings, central subframe and an additional thrust panel below the engine serving to maximize lateral stiffness of the entire front section.
  • At the rear axle, the subframe, transverse arms, track arms, and wheel hubs have been reconfigured by M for ideal kinematics, geometry and stiffness. Virtually every detail on the five-arm rear axle is made of aluminum and is new for this generation of BMW M vehicles, including the aluminum dampers.
  • Both the front and rear axles feature hollow anti-roll bars optimized for their function and weight. Incorporating two additional longitudinal reinforcement bars, axle kinematics are perfectly tailored to the overall street and track character of the car. The result, in terms of both stability and weight, conforms to the balanced performance concept of every BMW M vehicle.
  • 6-speed manual transmission with dry sump cooling system and 3.15:1 final drive ratio
  • Upgraded flywheel for use with high torque
  • Rack-and-pinion steering with hydralic power steering
  • Brakes from M3 featuring internally-vented, cross drilled cast icon discs – 14.2 inch front, 13.8 inch rear. Each disc is connected to a floating aluminum hub by cast-in stainless-steel pins which reduces the thermal loads on the discs, thus increasing their performance and service life.
  • M-LSD

sure, put performance parts on your 135 and it will be the same

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      12-10-2010, 05:34 AM   #292
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Just thought of this...what M version has ever had better gas mileage than a non-M? Blasphemy! I thought M owners universally hated the ozone layer!
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      12-10-2010, 05:36 AM   #293
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M Dynamic Mode is adaptive.

But if it is a n54 long block, with a twin scroll off of a n55, then that explains that is a special M engine [S55?] application they were referring to, and at the very least the turboS are configured differently, IF there are two of them.

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Strange indeed, but in the German press release it is clearly stated it has two small Turbos.
It is also written that it is adapted, but it is not written what exactly.
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      12-10-2010, 05:38 AM   #294
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As long suspected, it's a 135is with some M bits. Better than the 135i, but less than it could have/should have been. At least the estimated price is within reason, but let's see if that actually becomes $50k. Too bad about the colors and the DCT. That rear is definitely an afterthought, not an intent.
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      12-10-2010, 05:42 AM   #295
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I'm tempted, but not at 46k
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      12-10-2010, 06:38 AM   #296
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To all the hater thinking they can slap after market parts in their 135i to achieve this, please read the online catalogue
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http://www.bmw.com/com/en/newvehicle..._catalogue.pdf
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      12-10-2010, 06:39 AM   #297
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the rear view is more than horrible imo. WTF is this..
I agree. Lots of design 'issues' with this think aside from the low power numbers. Looks like M3 for me.?

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      12-10-2010, 06:39 AM   #298
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This is the most bad rear of the BMW for a decade
look at that!

love it!

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      12-10-2010, 06:40 AM   #299
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I like these little touches that separate it from the 135i. This thing is definitely a looker.
wish they coulda put the silver gauge rings with the lighting like the e9x m3s
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Other than the cosmetic bits, this is basically a 135 with performance software? No thanks.
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Other than the cosmetic bits, this is basically a 135 with performance software? No thanks.
Well, there is certainly more to it then that. LSD, wider stance, suspension, brakes, etc.
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Just thought of this...what M version has ever had better gas mileage than a non-M? Blasphemy! I thought M owners universally hated the ozone layer!
From the data I saw the 1M does not get better mileage. It looked about 10% less than a 135. 13.6l/100km on the 1M, 12.1l/100km on the 135, the 1M uses 1.4l more in 100km.
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      12-10-2010, 06:51 AM   #303
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Other than the cosmetic bits, this is basically a 135 with performance software? No thanks.
no comments any more on these kind of remarks

you for sure should not buy an 1M or any other M car.
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It has a single twin scroll!!!!!!
No...twin low-mass turbochargers
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I have done that route also. Bought a gt3 mk2 after my e90 m3. Porsche atmo s are pure porn.

This 1 series M is nice for a daily drifter and some sideways shopping for driving on track all day you can better take the GT3.
I will be down your route very soon. 997.2 Porsche GT3 = all day at the track and tons of fun. Dont have to worry about heat soak or HPFP issues or limp mode. Pure N/A high revving porn
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I like the car, especially in black, though blue would be my first choice. I will not buy a street car without a sunroof though. I won't even buy a car for my wife without one. I use one all the time everyday. It is a personal thing.

I know of at least one person that got a 135i without a sunroof so conversely maybe I can bribe someone at BMW to help me get a sunroof. I mean, I see sat and idrive in pictures, which I think is getting away from the "back to the basics" concept. Sat probably is not essential to find your way and why in a high performance manual transmission drivers car would you want to be distracted away from the driving experience with Idrive?

Why not a sunroof then? The weight is not that much for a street car. Oh well I guess we all just are different.

I think the the car is great and if I did not have a 135i I might be more excited. I understand the huge improvements made to the chassis, brakes, and looks but they are still pretty close in specification when compared to the 135i. I am now caught between the 1M and the F30 M3, which will have around 100 more horsepower, only around 100 pounds more weight, and will probably let me order a sunroof.
We should start a "We want a Sunroof not navigation thread"
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