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10-14-2011, 06:28 AM | #23 | |
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No! Not only those oil weights... but the oil ALSO must meet BMW specs: Long Life 1 or Long Life 4 rated, PLUS it also must be of least API SM/CF, ACEA C2, C3. LL-4 can be used where LL-1 is spec'd for. But LL-1 can not be used for LL-4 areas. LL-1 = high sulfur fuel (USA/Canada/Mex/Austrailia/ect...) LL-4 = low sulfur fuel (Germany/ECE) BMW says to use an oil that meets the above oil specs (API SM/CF, ACEA C2, C3; LL-1 or LL-4) and that comes in a 5w30, 0w30, or 0w40 weight. Dackel |
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10-14-2011, 07:13 AM | #24 |
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Thanks for this Dackel,
Now what transmission oil should be used ???? Also do u know anything about ECCentric Shaft Fault.....what difference does it make........what problem may it cause....i dont see any difference to the car........ regards tim@oz 118i, E87, 02/2005 (Australia) RHD |
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10-14-2011, 07:28 AM | #25 | |
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I am not sure about your ECCentric Shaft Fault Code. What is the number/code? Have you looked on Bavarian Tech's website? They have a code listing. How did you read the codes in the first place? Does your engine rev up past 4K rpms? I googled the ECCentric... and found this... Looks like it ain't cheap! http://www.bmwcarclub.org.ph/forum/s...ead.php?t=3831 Dackel |
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11-13-2011, 11:21 AM | #27 |
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11-13-2011, 02:29 PM | #28 |
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11-19-2011, 06:57 PM | #29 |
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The LL-01 test mainly adds the need for long oil life above other oil quality tests, so a non-LL-01 oil may not have suitable properties over a 25,000km/15,000mile life. Changing a non-LL-01 oil more frequently than the BMW recommended interval would be advisable. If the car is still warranted by BMW, then using a non-LL-01 oil could void your warranty.
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11-19-2011, 09:26 PM | #30 |
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This is exactly the reason why only LL-01 oil is used in my car. When I am out of warranty, will I use something else? Probably, but until then, she only drinks the expensive kool aid.
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11-20-2011, 05:03 AM | #31 |
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11-20-2011, 11:27 AM | #32 | ||
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In practice one can achieve the same goal, as mentioned above, by changing oil more often. That's what I do. During warranty, I let the dealership change the oil at their specified interval. At mid mark, I throw in my own oil change. I don't see how a non-LL-01 oil (given the right viscosity) can be bad since it's an extra oil change, above and beyond the recommendation. Even out of warranty, if I use only non-LL-01, I'm changing oils twice as often. Oil longevity is simply not an issue. My reason for doing this isn't even that I don't trust the oil will last that long. I don't trust the filter will last 15K miles. |
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11-20-2011, 12:37 PM | #34 | |
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BMW 5W30 - Manufactured by Castrol, not the same as Castrol-branded 5W30 Castrol 0W30 - Manufactured in Germany or Belgium Mobil 1 0W40 - "European Car Formula" |
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11-20-2011, 12:45 PM | #35 |
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No, it hasnt been, jackass.
There are posts mentioning different brands and weights, but no list with "here are all the LL-01 oils". Thats what i was asking for. aerobod - thanks. im in germany, so i guess ill look around and see what is in the auto stores here so i dont have to pay the dealer premium. also, im my searching of google i found that AMSoil is supposedly working on getting an LL-01 oil approved by bmw. so maybe by my 15k oil change they will have something. pretty partial to them since its all ive ever run in anything that takes oil and ive never had an issue thats been oil related in any way. |
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11-20-2011, 01:06 PM | #37 |
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11-20-2011, 01:19 PM | #38 | |
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And where do you think the list in post #35 comes from? Didn't you thank him for that list? Admit that you didn't read the thread, that you were prematurely and unnecessarily abrasive, and move on. Last edited by MPBK; 11-20-2011 at 01:25 PM.. |
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11-20-2011, 01:33 PM | #39 |
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i read it, was asking for a list of all oils that are made that comply, not just NA oils
guess i should have said "thanks, BUT" instead of the way i worded it. |
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11-20-2011, 05:06 PM | #41 | |
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Here is THE LL-4 listing from my BMW Zentrum. These are all the oils approved for LL4 in BMW's. BMW approved motor oils... aka THE LIST!!! http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showt...=LL-4+aka+list A LL-4 oil can be used where LL-1 is spec'd but not the other way around. LL-4 approved oils are designed to be used with low(to no) sulfur fuels - mainly sold in Europe. I use LL-4 oil in my US spec 15i, bc I use German (low/no sulfur) fuel. I use German Castrol RS Edge 0w40 LL-4 oil in my car. I buy it from the oeldepot24.de They also have THE BEST deals on BMW dealer oils too. 6 euro per liter vs the dealer at 23 to 32 euros per! http://www.oeldepot24.de/catalog/ind...cPath=22_35_27 Dackel |
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11-20-2011, 05:16 PM | #42 | |
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If something happened and they drew oil from your crankcase, and performed analysis on it, and it fell far short of whatever makes LL-01 oil so special, then they could deny you warranty claim, even if, the OCI was much sooner than the factory requires. If you ask me, it's just not worth it. Especially when here in the US, you can find M1 0w-40 for $5/qt. I completely agree with you regarding shorter OCI, as matter of fact, I change it myself at 5k and 10k intervals and let BMWNA pick up the tab at 15k intervals.
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