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Will BMW drop the EV production like Mercedes
Mercedes' new sales strategy is a bad omen for its luxury EVs One dealer feels that despite Mercedes' efforts to build a quality EV, it is no use if people aren't willing to buy it. "I don't think the space for Mercedes is there," a Mercedes dealer told AN. "Most of our high-end clients seeking performance-oriented cars will pick a gasoline engine over an electric motor." https://www.thestreet.com/electric-v...its-luxury-evs |
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Unplug the pigtail from the garage wall and venture out to the real world and DCFC at a station with amenities to keep you safe, comfortable, and occupied for 40 minutes with an industrial power demark and the delivered kWh price jumps dramatically. It's just simple business economics. Last edited by Efthreeoh; 02-21-2024 at 02:53 PM.. |
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Managed Charging, Bidirectional Charging, and Electric Vehicles for Mobile Storage A bidirectional EV can receive energy from an EVSE (charge) and provide energy to an external load (discharge), and is often paired with a similarly capable EVSE. Often bidirectional vehicles are employed to provide backup power to buildings or specific loads, sometimes as part of a microgrid, through 'vehicle to building' (V2B). Bidirectional vehicles can also power the grid through ‘vehicle to grid’ (V2G) to provide various grid services, although the programs to incentivize these grid services are not yet widely in place for vehicle applications. Sites can check with their serving utility to ascertain if their utility’s interconnection agreement(s) permit EVs to provide reverse power flow to the grid. https://www.energy.gov/femp/managed-...mobile-storage Got an EV as primary transportation you better be shopping for a home generator with a grid cut off switch. . Generally I don't take pleasure in the problems of others but I may make an exception on this one. Yes your Tesla could be mobile storage during the next power shortage. EV'ers still think all those charging stations simultaneously malfunctioned in Chicago when there was a grid power issue. |
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Haha, this thread is a bunch of sky is falling, foil hat wearing doomers.
I’ve had an EV since 2016 (2013 Nissan Leaf). It’s true, EVs don’t do EVERYTHING better than a ICE car (especially towing and road trips). However, if it’s a 2nd car, and it’s for around town or for your commute, they’re WAY WAY WAY better than ICE cars. Electricity is $0.08/kWh in the PNW. My Leaf shockingly cheap to drive and own. It’s been perfectly reliable. If you don’t want an EV, don’t get one. But this mutual EV-hate masturbation going on in this thread is total nonsense. Everyone I know who actually HAS an EV loves it and they don’t plan on going back. |
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EV Owners Reveal Why They Returned to Gas-Powered Cars 1 in 5 early adopters are going back to petroleum. January 29, 2024 The Journal found that of “early adopters” in California (defined as folks who bought an EV between 2012 and 2018), 20% of PHEV drivers chose a traditional gas car for their next purchase while 18% of full battery EV drivers went back to gas. https://www.motorbiscuit.com/ev-owne...-powered-cars/ gilberjj is always welcome to debate the facts when he runs out of personal insults. |
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You'll be back, the government giveth and the government fuckth up. I wouldn't bet a plug nickle on California's power grid with the clown car of idiots you have managing it.
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82 percent of EV owners come back for more. That pretty much seals the deal. I didn’t give a damn when the government made me pay gas guzzler taxes on my cars and I don’t give a damn on getting a car the government favors.
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Again, EVs don't do everything as well as ICE cars. So some people are going to need to switch back (as the article states). Imagine you're owning/renting a house and then move to an apartment/condo. EVs probably won't work as well. 82% repop for an EV seems like a landslide W... Quote:
MY vehicles in Washington state. Car #1: 2011 BMW x5 35d Car #2: 2013 Nissan Leaf Current diesel price in Washington state: $4.50/gal Current electricity price in Washington state: $0.08/kWh x5 35d gets about 24 mpg. Therefore, $4.50 gets me 24 miles. Leaf gets about 3.5 miles/kWh. Therefore $4.50/0.08=56.25 kWh 56.25 kWh * 3.5 miles/kWh = 196.9 miles 196.9/24 = 8.2 That means that it's 8.2 TIMES more expensive to drive my x5 (not including maintenance or repairs). It's not even close. For those of us with cheap electricity, this technology shift is as monumental as the change from steam to ICE. If you want to put your head in the sand, be my guest, but to suggest that a Malibu is as efficient and cheap to operate as an EV is willful ignorance. Sure there are gas cars that get 60 mpg, but even they are significantly more expensive to operate. |
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6,843 pound carbon bomb for EV posers, what a joke.
So if taking the CT from 100% to close to zero towing a 6,000 lb pretty aero efficient Tesla on mostly town roads and some highway CT towing range is approximately 90-150 miles in very good/mild towing conditions using the whole battery. But a real world use of 75% of the battery pack gives the CT towing a modest load about 68-113 miles of usable range. Based on a total of 4 range tests with the one above being the most comprehensive and complete. With a bigger load and higher speeds could be looking at as little as 50 miles of towing range with current data available. https://www.cybertruckownersclub.com...er-load.11420/ |
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^^ Good point, we only hear of well off folk who can afford the luxury of an EV with a gas car to back it up if things get too much with the EV.
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