BMW 1-series Tii concept coupe revealed!!! The next ///M1?

[Dr. No]

They put a stripe into the blonde showing the car too!!!

:w00t:

I only hope that they are not to launch a ///M1 or a 135tii after I get my 135i.

[larry lawless]

Dam ....... great pics Harold.

[steinkek]

Harold, Any word on release date? or it is going to be shipped to the States?

[pxd]

Originally Posted by steinkek

Harold, Any word on release date? or it is going to be shipped to the States?

As far as I know, the Tii is only a concept for now...
I hope they do make it though :biggrin:

[joelk]

Originally Posted by PrototypeX

As far as I know, the Tii is only a concept for now...
I hope they do make it though :biggrin:

true but they showed the M3 as a concept and then introduced it, iirc, w/in 6 months in essentially the same form as a production version. so :iono:

anyway i'm liking it a little more than at first... i love those wheels though ... think i might put them on my 135i.

i actually like the stripes :redface::tongue: ... i think the initial write-up was so devoid of actual facts and figures that it was a turn-off ... if they can back it all up with numbers then i say

[marcosowns]

I wouldn't get too excited about this car, considering it is a concept car right now. From an exterior point of view they need to paint match the hood and get rid of that stripe. Everything else looks incredibly good, especially those wheels!

[bradford]

Huhuhuhuhuhuhhuuhuhhhuhhhhh....COME TO BUTTHEAD...

I think it would look better in black with a silver stripe I III I like this one 3 stripes ( one fat one in the middle) all the way over and down and larger fenders and wheels I want the otherwise I want the convertible

[matt]

WHERE CAN I PLACE MY ORDER???????

Please BMW, BUILD IT!!!

Im gonna buy 2.

:headbang::roundel:

[drew2002]

Originally Posted by ichiban

i'm hella digging her sideskirts.

Fixed (sorry it was too easy)

[03///m3]

I REALLY hope BMW builds this car.... I'm sure the numbers are incredible on it. I would most definitly get this car if BMW makes it and brings it to the US as is.

[drew2002]

Whoever was asking about the meaning of "tii", it stands for
"touring international injected", for the fuel injected version of the original 2002.

See: http://www.bimmers.com/02/intro/buyer_guide.html#1972

[rupertisalive]

If someone hasn't already posted this, just to let you know that autocar is saying it will probably have the 2.0 four cylinder (170bhp approx) that is used in the 3 series special ed of a while back here. they say that it will be turbo'd in this application.

Also Autocar reckon it will be called CS

[adc]

Originally Posted by fventura

Well, it would depend on how much that premium would be, as well as how good the suspension and other mods would really be.
I don't like to spend too much on cars, and on the 135i I am quite sure I would have to spend up to 4k in wheels/tires and suspension.

Yes, you would have to spend around $4k in wheels/tires/suspension, add another k for the CF hood (a vented hood is a really good idea on the N54 engine, believe me, and perhaps another k for installation. You're looking at around $6k, but you'll have a good choice for the wheels and suspension setup, based on the car's intended usage.

Based on the cost of the ZCP package on the M3, and the cost of the ZHP package on the 330i, this suite of changes for the 135 would easily top $8k... maybe more. Factory CF sells at a premium.

Just WAG-es right now.

[bradford]

Originally Posted by 03///m3

I'm sure the numbers are incredible on it.

O RLY?

What numbers would those be?

[adc]

Originally Posted by Feli_330i

In my car (330i ZHP) I have alacantara wrapped steering wheel, alcantara shift boot, and handbrake boot. After 2 years it now looks horrible and I take really good care of it, specially the steering wheel the alcantara is all shredded.

Take it in for servicing, and show it to your SA. Tell him that this is not acceptable in a BMW, and you expect them to replace it under warranty.

I had mine replaced after 2 years with the Alcantara one, and it failed again after 2 years. Just before the warranty expired, I had it replaced again with the later-model perforated leather one. Not as cool, not as grippy, but the new owner of the car will thank me in the coming years.

[dna550]

BMW 1-series 'tii' recalls first M3

Is this the much discussed, but as yet unbuilt, successor to the original M3? BMW isn’t saying if it will make this lighter, lower version of the 1-series coupé, but it’s likely that something very similar will go into limited production next year.

Named after the classic and highly desirable 2002 tii, the Concept 1-series tii is a motorsport-influenced, carbonfibre-rich two-door with a bespoke aerodynamic kit and a modified interior.

The tii’s front and rear bumpers are new, along with the sill covers and bootlid, to improve the car’s aerodynamics. On the bootlid, a Gurney flap — a thin carbonfibre blade — increases downforce over the back axle. There are even fins on each side of the carbonfibre bonnet to improve airflow over the front of the car.

As a result, BMW claims the tii is lighter and better-balanced than a standard 1-series coupé. It’s also lower (by 23mm) and slightly longer.

Inside, the tii gets a severe-looking set of race seats, plenty of black Alcantara and contrasting white-painted trim on the dash, doors and steering wheel. The white-faced rev counter gets an oil temperature gauge.

BMW won’t confirm the engine, but it’s likely to be a version of the 2005 320si’s 2.0-litre four-cylinder unit. And BMW has indicated it will have a turbo; the reversed tii logo on the bumper is a subtle nod to the original 2002 Turbo, which had ‘turbo’ written in reverse lettering in the same place.

Although the 320si wasn’t particularly quick or powerful — 173bhp and 0-60mph in 8.1sec — its 7000rpm peak power delivery had something of the original M3’s engine, and its quick responses were well-received. In a lighter 1-series, with the tii’s efficient aerodynamics, performance could be much improved, especially with a turbo.

Don’t expect the production car to be called M1 or tii, however. The most likely name for this 1-series is CS; BMW has always applied it to lighter, faster models.

Dan Stevens

[Joraq]

After lurking on this site for awhile and reading the different rumors and statements regarding the 1 series, its funny to see some predictions come to be.

Yes, as summarized in the last 7 pages, this is a taste of what is to come. Love it or hate it.. I don't know how anyone could hate it, (even with the stripes), you know they wouldn't make production or be opt. at worst. Anyway, all improvements.. None of us should be complaining..

The only reason any of us are mad is that this will come probably after the release of the 135i which will have us feeling like 3 series owners.. LOL.. isn't that ironic.. Some of us already are. I for one would not want a regular 135 nearly as bad in March if I knew this were coming not to far after.. Soo.. We'll either bite the bullet and satisfy the 1 series craving, or WAIT LONGER..

Honestly, does BMW care if we want the hotter one first.. Why not have them Buy the 135 and trade up??? Its a sad game but it always happens.. BMW will produce a MModified 1. Why?? CAUSE we want it and it will sell.. The car has already been introduced as the new soul of BMW..

There will ALWAYS be something better around the bend..

As for what I will do?? Well, we do have a month or so to order and till March for the cars.. Time will tell.

J.

[dna550]

BMW 1-Series
BMW legend lives again

BMW revives cult classics with tii version of 1-Series Coupé making its debut alongside the new M3 saloon.

24th October 2007


It features some of the most futuristic cars on the planet, but the Tokyo Motor Show played host to a BMW that looked to the past for its inspiration.

Sitting alongside its new M3 four-door big brother, the 1-Series tii is drawing big crowds at the Japanese expo.

Most striking is the show car’s carbon fibre bonnet, which gives the squat 1-Series Coupe shape an even more purposeful stance.

While it’s still officially called a design study, the tii is close to production ready. With everything from unique front and rear bumpers to a navy blue racing stripe, the show star is sure to be popular with BMW fans who want to get noticed.

A host of aerodynamic parts have been fitted including a new lip in the boot lid along with a specially shaped carbon-fibre-reinforced bonnet. The specialist bonnet adds a sporting edge to the BMW’s looks as well as helping to reduce overall kerb weight.

Inside, the performance upgrades are just as striking. The white rev counter sits next to a black speedometer, while the bucket seats and much of the dashboard are clad in alcantara.

But don’t expect the race-bred makeover to continue under the skin. Despite the sporty looks BMW has not made any mechanical engine or chassis tweaks. Concentrating instead on making minor weight reductions and styling revisions, the tii could either appear as a styling accessories pack on any 1-Series Coupe, or be offered as a range-topping model with a new yet-to-be-announced powerplant.

If you like your sporty BMWs to come with a bit more bite, the M3 four-dour could be for you. Sharing the same mighty V8 powerplant and rear-wheel drive chassis as the coupe, the saloon offers practicality along with supercar performance

[fventura]

Originally Posted by adc

Yes, you would have to spend around $4k in wheels/tires/suspension, add another k for the CF hood (a vented hood is a really good idea on the N54 engine, believe me, and perhaps another k for installation. You're looking at around $6k, but you'll have a good choice for the wheels and suspension setup, based on the car's intended usage.

Based on the cost of the ZCP package on the M3, and the cost of the ZHP package on the 330i, this suite of changes for the 135 would easily top $8k... maybe more. Factory CF sells at a premium.

Just WAG-es right now.

...I guess we just have to wait and see.
If it does have a 4cyl turbo, say rated at 250 hp, it could be that much lighter than the 135i,super balanced, more economic, and it would have the potential for incredible handling.
If the 4cyl turbo motor is cheaper to build than the 6cyl, than it might not be 8k more than the 135i.

Say it is 300 pounds lighter, and has 250 hp, how close to the 135i's straight line performance would it be ?

Later,

Fabio

[Khobin~]

Personnally i'm not really a fan of stripes, unpainted CF, or anything to flashy on cars...I like mine to be understated...to blend in with the sheep around it so that they don't notice that it might be a wolf...

But that...I like...the only thing I dislike is the banner on the windsheild(too tacky for me).

...Now if only if it wouldn't cost me my first (well only) born son to buy...

[adc]

Originally Posted by fventura

Say it is 300 pounds lighter, and has 250 hp, how close to the 135i's straight line performance would it be ?

Not far removed from the E36 M3, or 330i ZHP, or 128i - probably midway between the 135i and the 128i.

E36 M3: 240BHP, 3175lbs
330i ZHP: 235BHP, 3285lbs
128i: 230BHP, 3250lbs
guesstimate tii: 250BHP, 3100lbs

The E46 ZHP and E36 M3 had similar performance numbers, despite the lower BHP and higher weight of the E46 car - largely due to the better damping and (perhaps) suspension geometry. I'd expect a similar increase in the 1 series chassis, in which a 128i would be fairly level performance-wise with those 2 cars.

Problem is, the 135i will be significantly faster than the 128i/E36 M3/E46 ZHP. Not only in straightline acceleration, but track times too.

So would you pay more for the 250BHP tii, if it were slower than the 135i? Considering that you can make the 135i lighter and better handling?


Another thing to consider is - would BMW certify a 4cyl turbo limited production model in the US, and would it sell in sufficient numbers?