1 Series M Coupe US Base Price Announced: $ 47,010

[Dackelone]

Originally Posted by BlackFlash

What sorts of tax rates do you guys pay on cars in the US? Not 100%...

In most states it is about 5% (or less or even nothing(!) sometimes) of the selling price. Some states as high as 9% ???

[MUFCbmwbear]

Based off the new 135i pricing the 1M appears to be a solid deal, obviously less so based off the original 135i pricing. I want a test drive and I want it now. And to see it in black would help

[dbtheo]

But to me the pricing seems right on too... "The base price of the all-new BMW 1 Series M Coupe, powered by 335 horsepower with 332 lb-ft of
torque, is $46,135. The 1 Series M Coupe is largely equipped with components from the M3
Competition Package, including wheels, tires, brakes, aluminum-intensive suspension, and M variable
differential lock." Those upgrades alone are worth while, not to mention a nice level of standard equipment built into the price as well.

That said, would I love to be able to get a non-power seat, virtually no options car & save a few grand? Yes. But the price is appropriate for what we actually get

[adc]

Originally Posted by PKumarM3

well a used m3 on cars.com is 44k in my area (tri state NY/NJ/CT)

why would i buy a 1M over an e9x m3?

-limited edition
-looks
-gas mileage?
-tuning capability
-motor? - no.


what else would make me want to buy a 1M over an e9x m3?

These are my thoughts:
- A new 1M via Euro Delivery will be around $40-42k base.
- I actually prefer the smaller form factor (I would compromise the rear seat a little for less weight)
- Gives me the opportunity of driving a factory-painted orange car (GT3 RS & Lambo closet admirer, I guess)

And stock for stock, IMO the 1M will be faster than the M3 on some tracks - just wait for the shock numbers.

A big unknown at this point is how well the new engine will fare on track in hot & humid conditions here in the US. My M3's drivetrain has been bulletproof on track.


$46k base price seems fair to me, given the extent of the changes over the 135i.

[Imola.ZHP]

pass

[Sephiroth]

Glad i didn't hold out for this one...

[Brian W]

Will be interesting to see if they give the ED discount or not. When the e90/92 M3s first came out, weren't they providing zero discount from USDM MSRP?

[adc]

Originally Posted by Brian W

Will be interesting to see if they give the ED discount or not. When the e90/92 M3s first came out, weren't they providing zero discount from USDM MSRP?

Indeed, it was coming from dealer allocation. But there have been numerous mysterious blurbs on various blogs and sites about interesting ED announcements to follow soon - I take it to mean the 1M will be available via ED with the discount.

The initial M3 strategy quickly backfired, as the take rate for ED was dismal (of course, the soft M3 sales in general didn't help either). That's why they changed it...

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by adc

The initial M3 strategy quickly backfired, as the take rate for ED was dismal (of course, the soft M3 sales in general didn't help either). That's why they changed it...

It wasn't so much an "initial M3 strategy" as it was just carrying on with status quo which was that M vehicles in general do not get ED discount pricing. I'm certain this applied to the E39 M5 and E46 M3, as well as the E6x M5/6 and (initially) E9x M3. It probably went back further than that, perhaps since the beginning of ED itself, but that was all before my BMW days so I don't know.

Of course, while they changed their tune for the E9x M3 as you point out, I don't think they did the same for the M5/6, and I don't think the X5/X6 M get the discount either. But I could be wrong about all of that.

In any case, yeah, I have to believe the 1M will get the discount but given the limited production you never know.

[The Peregrinus]

I'm perplexed by the people who are "shocked" at the pricing of this car considering a 135 just isn't that much less. Also - BMW will sell each and every one of these they make so, it's a pretty reasonable price considering

[ihyln]

Originally Posted by formula M

Sorry,

(Again).. as mentioned in several of your "other" 1M h8trz.. (nay-saying) replies, not everyone sees the current M3 as anything to brag about. I know several people who passed on it, or went old school because BMW M had lost their direction. The current M3 does nothing for me...


So please, drop the smug bias & respect yourself. The writing is on the wall, if you can't look past your own ego to understand that the M3, has no chance at keeping up with the 1M, when it comes to handling, then remain cynical. The rest of us are using logic. C'mon, simple physics are involved here... yet you hide behind your weak argument, when the truth is soon to come and it will be no surprise, to a good many of us.


The 1M is purposeful built M car, with a clear focus; handling. It is meant to be beaten to shit, then rebuilt @ the dealer every 5 years, then punished some more..! A pony car! Not a high speeds roller-coaster, ring car.

Even if you gave me a brand new, fully loaded M3, I would trade it in on a 1M and tell BMW to keep the difference. So I really don't care how cheap I could get a USED M3...!

I got a good chuckle out of this. So you are saying you would rather return the M3 with a bespoke engine for the 1 M coupe that is just a tuned N54 that was created purely for marketing and filling a tiny gap between the 335i and the M3?

That's gotta be some good shit you are smoking.

The main problem of the 1M (despite it being "limited") is that a mustang is a better value for money. I love BMWs but the 1 M was born out of greed not for any "back to basics" purposes.

[LeifW]

Originally Posted by HondaGoneRogue

O' no he diddin........

Leif W.

[Brian W]

Originally Posted by adc

Indeed, it was coming from dealer allocation. But there have been numerous mysterious blurbs on various blogs and sites about interesting ED announcements to follow soon - I take it to mean the 1M will be available via ED with the discount.

The initial M3 strategy quickly backfired, as the take rate for ED was dismal (of course, the soft M3 sales in general didn't help either). That's why they changed it...

We'll see. I called several dealers and as soon as they gave me the line about not knowing their allocation I responded back saying I was planning on EDing the car, therefore it shouldn't come out of any dealer allocation. They all agreed with me, but who knows at this point.

Originally Posted by mkoesel

Of course, while they changed their tune for the E9x M3 as you point out, I don't think they did the same for the M5/6, and I don't think the X5/X6 M get the discount either. But I could be wrong about all of that.

X5/X6 M are built in Spartanburg. Makes ED slightly more complicated when the car starts out stateside

[gboop]

Two words: Quantitative Easing

You can all partly thank Mr. Bernanke

Commodities have been shooting through the roof. I hope BMW is hedging their costs for the year.

More price increases to come

[jpd]

The United States market is highly price sensitive. Our friends in Europe pay significantly more even holding for tax disadvantages not to mention Canadians who pay considerably more than us even though Canadian Loony has parity with the American dollar. BMW pricing on the 1M is 10K higher that 135 which is more than I expected, but I'm sure they will sell them all.

[oasis3582]

40k for a new 135i is way more shocking. Fucking NUTS.

[Fuerza]

Originally Posted by sq86

These are the prices I got from BMWUSA.com for a 2011 135 (assuming that they all stay the same).

Premium - $2350; 135 ZPP, $1950, plus $400 for the Ipod

Conveince - $3100; 135 ZCP, $1000, plus $2100 for iDrive

Sat radio - $350

Heater Seats - $500

Harmon Kardon - $875

Smartphone integration - $150

Total cost for both packages - $5450...

plus all options, $7325 on top of MSRP for a fully loaded car. i.e. $54,335

Or you do the math, as your car will suit you.

$55k, damn I'm good.

[Diver]

Originally Posted by oasis3582

40k for a new 135i is way more shocking. Fucking NUTS.

Yeah, but we have to wait for the complete price list to see how bad it actually is.

[GrFa]

Wow, classic BMW. Facelift models while adding insignificant equipment and jacking up the price. They needed to raise the price of the price of the 1 series for the new sub 1 series FWD. So therefore when they start at $29k it will be "cheap" in comparison.

The same goes for the new X3 along with the introduction of the X1.

Not too long ago you could buy an X3 or 3 series coupe for right around $30k.

[SamS]

Originally Posted by illirep

I think its too expensive. You can buy a base M3 sedan for $9k more, which has more standard equipment and much stronger performance.

More like $15K more (gotta add leather and competition package to make it comparable). $15K is quite a bit more expensive, and "much stronger performance" probably remains to be seen.

Originally Posted by analogue

Another perspective.... A 335is base is $4k more than a 1M. That makes this an obvious choice for me.

$10K more when you add OEM 19" wheels and leather. The DCT option on the 335is is pretty appealing, but by the time you start adding some packages, you're up to a $65K car. Heck, at that point, it's M3 all the way!

[joelk]

Originally Posted by GrFa

Wow, classic BMW. Facelift models while adding insignificant equipment and jacking up the price. They needed to raise the price of the price of the 1 series for the new sub 1 series FWD. So therefore when they start at $29k it will be "cheap" in comparison.

The same goes for the new X3 along with the introduction of the X1.

Not too long ago you could buy an X3 or 3 series coupe for right around $30k.

pretty much this.

[Jaguar66]

Originally Posted by M3roar

Based on the 135i Options prices from BMW USA I figure the fully Loaded 1M should be about $53500 ish. Just a thought.

My fully loaded '09 135i had an MSRP just over $50K. About $14K over base price. A fully loaded 1M will be close to $60K